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bpk
29th October 2006, 02:51 PM
General
Life in NZ is more simple than any other country in Europe* and the people are very nice and helpful. The only disadvantage maybe the geographical location which isolates the country. It is not developed as Europe neither it is developing as many countries in the world. I feel it is somewhere in between.

People
They people in NZ** are mixture of different origins so you can find the Britons, who constitute the majority, the Chinese, south-East Asians, Japanese, Moari, and other minorities. The people here are kind and helpful though sometimes curious. I was surprised when I went to the Bank and they asked: “hello, how are you?” The same thing almost everywhere (post, supermarket, etc). I have never ever been asked by a bank employee or any other people in Europe like this. Sometimes I meet people even I do not know and they say hello to me. That never happened in Europe.


Food
Food is not as cheap as one might imagine in comparison to Europe, with few exceptions. In addition, there is no variety in food products like in Europe so you will find the same product everywhere.
Lamb and fresh fish cost almost the half of what I used to pay for in Europe. Dairy product are surprisingly more expensive than Europe though NZ got millions of cheap and cows!! Bread is of bad quality comparing to Germany and also expensive.
Drinks*** prices are more or less the same as in Europe. Other food products have more or less the same prices as in Europe. Vegetables and fruits are more expensive than Europe except Kiwi and citrus.

Furniture
The furniture is very expensive and not of good quality. I have seen once a second hand shop and one might find in the street in Germany better furniture than what I have seen there. Although I have to wait for a fortnight to get my order delivered from the furniture shop!!
Transportation
Transportation in NZ seems to be decades behind Europe and public transport is almost non-existence. So I bought a car in the first week I arrived here. Fuel price is almost two third of that in Germany. The roads are not as good as in Germany and the highest speed is 100 km/h on what they are calling a highway! (I used to drive on 200 km/h in Germany). Kiwi driving is bad as many teenagers can get the drive licence (at age of 15 !!) and they do not drive well. Insurance is not a compulsory as
I used to have everywhere!
Visa and Residence
It is a shame here that I lose many benefits because I am not a residence yet! Despite I am paying a large amount of my saraly as a tax but I am not entitled to any benefit because I am not a resident!!
I got more than 190 points and my mistake is that I did not apply for a residence before, but applied for work visa. I thought NZ is like any country in the world in which work visa does not differe from residence in terms of work and benefit. If I have known that I would have applied for a residence direct. But what I do not understand, why I have to pay tax when I am not entitled to benefits?

Weather
It is variable so sometimes we got rain and sometimes sun. Right now I got two seasons per day (I used to have the four seasons in Germany sometimes in the year). The sun is very strong here more than any place else. The reason is the air is not polluted and does not contain any dust or other pollutants that work as a filter for sun shine.

Work
Right now, everything is going well and the work is fine. Also the people are very nice and they helped me a lot settling in the first week.

*I mean by Europe the countries I lived in: Netherlands, Germany, Belgium
**This is based on Napier and not all NZ.
***Soft drinks as I do not drink alcohol.

Diny
29th October 2006, 03:38 PM
Great post - good to hear your thoughts after the 3 week mark - a very balanced view - thanks for posting - enjoyed reading it.

Diny

bpk
29th October 2006, 04:37 PM
Thanks Diny for your comments

sizzlingbadger
29th October 2006, 04:55 PM
Interesting to hear how you see things from a European perspective. It's great to hear UK/US stories but it's not often you hear from other Europeans on how things are different.

It seems you're enjoying your new life. Hope it all works out for you :nice1

Moorf
29th October 2006, 06:33 PM
Hey bpk, great post, thanks for sharing!! :)

Are you going to apply for PR now?

How is your work?

Moorf

willsken
29th October 2006, 08:41 PM
Hi bpk - great to hear from you! I enjoyed reading your post. Are you enjoying Napier? :)

KerryS
30th October 2006, 07:35 AM
Hi bpk - good to read your thoughts, and glad you seem to be enjoying NZ so far.

I'm puzzled by one thing though, what benefits do you think you would have as a resident over those as someone on a work visa?

bpk
30th October 2006, 08:18 AM
Thanks all for your nice words.


Are you going to apply for PR now?

How is your work?

Moorf

The work is fine. Yes, I have applied for residency and my EOI was selected. STill waiting

bpk
30th October 2006, 08:18 AM
Hi bpk - great to hear from you! I enjoyed reading your post. Are you enjoying Napier? :)
Yes, Napier is very nice town and I enjoy it.

bpk
30th October 2006, 08:20 AM
Hi bpk - good to read your thoughts, and glad you seem to be enjoying NZ so far.

I'm puzzled by one thing though, what benefits do you think you would have as a resident over those as someone on a work visa?
The benifits are:
-Children benifits that is about $124 pw (I am not exactly sure about amount.
-Kindergarten and school subsidency
-I am not entiteled to public health insurance !!
That what I have learned so far. Not sure if there is any other thing I may lose because of damn residency

KerryS
30th October 2006, 08:25 AM
The benifits are:
-Children benifits that is about $124 pw (I am not exactly sure about amount.
-Kindergarten and school subsidency
-I am not entiteled to public health insurance !!
That what I have learned so far. Not sure if there is any other thing I may lose because of damn residency

Ah, you see, I was wondering as I don't have any children so don't get those benefits anyway...
I got public health as I was from the UK and they had a reciprocal agreement with NZ. I have health insurance anyway, so don't use it.

Are you going to go ahead with your residency now you are here?

bpk
30th October 2006, 08:28 AM
Are you going to go ahead with your residency now you are here?
Yes. As I said, I have applied and my EOI was selected. Still waiting for response.

Avalon
30th October 2006, 09:31 AM
But what I do not understand, why I have to pay tax when I am not entitled to benefits?

.
:confused:

But on the plus side - you are entitled to work and live in a fantastic country :D

Croft
30th October 2006, 11:52 PM
Transportation
Transportation in NZ seems to be decades behind Europe and public transport is almost non-existence. So I bought a car in the first week I arrived here. Fuel price is almost two third of that in Germany. The roads are not as good as in Germany and the highest speed is 100 km/h on what they are calling a highway! (I used to drive on 200 km/h in Germany). Kiwi driving is bad as many teenagers can get the drive licence (at age of 15 !!) and they do not drive well. Insurance is not a compulsory as
I used to have everywhere!


This does confuse me - while evrywhere else is building up the public transportation system, NZ seems hell bent on dismantling their railways. Still, I guess it's difficult maintaining a system for only 4m people across such a wide area,

I know what you mean by the speed limit. When we were stationed in Germany we typically cruised at 120mph (193 kmph) and occassionally up to 140 mph (225 kmph) - all perfectly safely. During our visits to NZ though I found it perfectly comfortable around 100 kmph, you just get used to the local norm I guess.

As for diriving at 15, I guess it's better than Louisiana where I lived for a while - you can drive at 12 if you're off the school bus route. I didn't realise until your note that insurance was not compulsary!

Hannah
31st October 2006, 05:29 AM
Hi bpk!
so glad to hear things are going well for you. i agree with much of your post - i found things very similar.
All the very best of luck with your PR application. PM me if you have any more questions about your application/paperwork etc.
Hannah

bpk
1st November 2006, 11:40 AM
As for diriving at 15, I guess it's better than Louisiana where I lived for a while - you can drive at 12 if you're off the school bus route.
This is horrible! at 12?? I can not imagine

bpk
1st November 2006, 11:41 AM
Hi bpk!
All the very best of luck with your PR application. PM me if you have any more questions about your application/paperwork etc.
Hannah
Thank you Hannah. This is so kind from you

Lizelle
1st November 2006, 05:02 PM
if you have a work visa for more than 2 years, you do qualify for public health

Carol
1st November 2006, 07:06 PM
Teens can only drive at 15 if accompanied by a qualified driver. They have to do that for a year and then they can take their restricted licence - they can drive alone on that - no passengers allowed - even family - unless they are qualified drivers.
They also have a curfew of 10pm to 5am.
They are on their restricted for 18 months and then they can go for their full.
That means they have had 2 and 1/2 years of "practice" before they get their full licence.
To be honest - I think it is a much better system than letting a 17 year old loose on the motorway the day they pass their test with no previous experience.

And you only qualify for child benefit if you are on a low income.
We have 3 kids and get nothing.

We have had PR for 10 years and are now citizens - and still get nothing.

So be it.
I'd still rather bring my kids up here than in the UK

Carol
1st November 2006, 07:11 PM
When we were stationed in Germany we typically cruised at 120mph (193 kmph) and occassionally up to 140 mph (225 kmph) - all perfectly safely.


Yes but the roads are motorways.
Driving at those speeds on SH1 is just not a possibility.

You can't possibly compare the two.

It is the quality of the roads here that is the problem - not the speed limit.
But with a population of 4million the need for motorways is not really a priority is it?

While it bugs me that it takes so long to get from Wellington to Auckland by road - we cope....I'd hate to see a thundering great motorway up the middle of the country.

willsken
2nd November 2006, 01:20 AM
Teens can only drive at 15 if accompanied by a qualified driver. They have to do that for a year and then they can take their restricted licence - they can drive alone on that - no passengers allowed - even family - unless they are qualified drivers.
They also have a curfew of 10pm to 5am.
They are on their restricted for 18 months and then they can go for their full.
That means they have had 2 and 1/2 years of "practice" before they get their full licence.
To be honest - I think it is a much better system than letting a 17 year old loose on the motorway the day they pass their test with no previous experience.



Never thought about it like that before, but then I didn't realise they were so restricted. So yes, food for thought on this one. Matt might well get behind the wheel at 15 yet!!! :roll

bpk
2nd November 2006, 11:47 AM
And you only qualify for child benefit if you are on a low income.
We have 3 kids and get nothing.

We have had PR for 10 years and are now citizens - and still get nothing.

So be it.
I'd still rather bring my kids up here than in the UK
It is not the case with me. If your income is higher than $70k you will not get subsidency, which is not my case.
Moreover, I have to have a 2 years work visa to be entitled to Public health insurance. But as my passport expires in less than 2 years, I got the visa till 3 months before the expiray data, and so I do not have a 2 years visa.

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