hels1977
22nd November 2006, 08:48 PM
Okay the plan is slowly being formulated thanks to all you lovely people :raebanana
Just one question, we are looking to submit our EIO as soon as we have proof that we've been living together for a year and we won't have that until the second half of next year unfortunately but at what point will they need letters from our places of employment to say we are for real and really are employed in that trade? Because at that point we'll have to come clean with work, something we haven't done yet as it's a long way off and we don't quite know how to deal with it yet. Ie when will we need letters from work to say "so and so works here and is employed as and has been for X number of years".
Any thoughts/advice on this one please? :nice1
UK Neil
22nd November 2006, 09:01 PM
I believe you can submit pay slips and contract letters in your ITA instead of references as proof of your employment so you could postpone having to tell them until a later date.
Helsandfamily
23rd November 2006, 01:16 AM
Hi Helensy,
We have recieved our ITA and have still not told work. We may need to get a letter to say what we do, but will try to get around it with a little white lie ( to work - Not NZIS) just to keep things quiet for a while.
We haven't told many people at all - while there are still uncertanties whats the point in telling folk. ;)
Good luck
Hels
hels1977
23rd November 2006, 02:48 AM
Hi
Thanks for the useful replies. Pay slips and offer letters are good, we have them and can submit them without raising suspicion. The thing we want to avoid as Helsandfamily said is telling people and then not managing to emmigrate at all for all the uncertainties. :uhoh
So it's good that we can sit and relax and keep quite :clap.
Hannah
23rd November 2006, 07:00 AM
Another thing i've heard people say on this forum in the past is that they've asked employers to provide an open reference because they are applying for a course or something (e.g. an open university course). Other things you can do is go to HR (if you work in a larger organisation) and ask them. Alternatively you could ask previous employers to write you some kind of reference stating your skills. There's always ways round it. Although i agree that payslips, contracts etc. are good as proof of period employed, however the ITA does ask in certain parts for you to demonstrate how your previous skills relate to the job offer you are submitting (if you are submitting a job offer). This is where a specific reference from your employer that outlines your skills can be helpful (but then if you have a job offer.....chances are you are giving your notice at work anyway)
Remember that another example of proof of your skills is your job description and person spec.
Sometimes you need to be creative with the documentation you submit and if you wish to avoid telling work then this is possible. If NZIS need a letter from your employer spelling out your skills or the period you were employed then they will contact you. I've not heard of NSIZ ever going direct to employers for this information....
Great fun isn't it.....i loved the challenge of the ITA form (but then i am a bit weird like that - i fill in funding bids for a living and i love forms!!!!!)
hannah
The Hodges
23rd November 2006, 07:06 AM
Hi helensy
As part of the EOI, your submission will not be checked, only when you are invited to apply (ITA) and so you don't need to tell anybody anything.
When we submitted out EOI, I didn't bother telling my line manager at work, although I did inform HR, although I checked that anything I told them was in confidence.
I only told my line manager (when I resigned) at the ITA stage, and to prove the relevant work experience I was claiming for, I submitted to NZIS my first and latest pay slips, to show duration, and my contract and my new contract to prove my new job in NZ and so, I suppose, I might not have had to tell them anything at all. Although that means I would still be on a three months notice period...
Good luck with yours.
hels1977
23rd November 2006, 07:32 AM
Great fun isn't it.....i loved the challenge of the ITA form (but then i am a bit weird like that - i fill in funding bids for a living and i love forms!!!!!)
hannah
You enjoyed them.... did I hear you right? You're quite quite mad!! :raebanana
I am slowly getting to grips with the process and I think it's getting to grips with me but if I stumble on a form then I know who to call! :cheers
hels1977
23rd November 2006, 07:34 AM
Hi helensy
As part of the EOI, your submission will not be checked, only when you are invited to apply (ITA) and so you don't need to tell anybody anything.
When we submitted out EOI, I didn't bother telling my line manager at work, although I did inform HR, although I checked that anything I told them was in confidence.
I only told my line manager (when I resigned) at the ITA stage, and to prove the relevant work experience I was claiming for, I submitted to NZIS my first and latest pay slips, to show duration, and my contract and my new contract to prove my new job in NZ and so, I suppose, I might not have had to tell them anything at all. Although that means I would still be on a three months notice period...
Good luck with yours.
Yes you're right, I think HR is the way to go when the time comes having read that, we have both got contract, job descriptions & pay slips so that should be proof enough that we have been employed in the required skill job for so many years, feels like forever :D
Hannah
23rd November 2006, 07:51 AM
Always happy to talk about forms....
Just PM me!
It's a kind of weird hobby of mine. Much healthier than smoking and drinking....and for someone who hates TV it's gives me something to do of an evening!!!!!!!
jo-and-jeff
23rd November 2006, 08:11 AM
Helensy,
Just read back to your first post in this Forum, and since you both qualify under the Skilled Migrant category, you don't need proof of a relationship if you each submit an EOI. Yes, that does run a slight risk that only one, but not both of you would be chosen, but think how much more quickly you might be able to get here if you each get your own PR and don't have to have proof that your relationship has been going on for a year! If you both have about the same number of points, I think your chances of both being chosen (or not chosen) should be pretty good.
It's just a thought, anyway...
Jo
hels1977
23rd November 2006, 06:45 PM
Helensy,
Just read back to your first post in this Forum, and since you both qualify under the Skilled Migrant category, you don't need proof of a relationship if you each submit an EOI. Yes, that does run a slight risk that only one, but not both of you would be chosen, but think how much more quickly you might be able to get here if you each get your own PR and don't have to have proof that your relationship has been going on for a year! If you both have about the same number of points, I think your chances of both being chosen (or not chosen) should be pretty good.
It's just a thought, anyway...
Jo
Hi Jo
Cheers for the reply. Unfortunately since my first post on the forum I found out that I don't count and can't get in on my own merits even though I do kind of work in a skills shortage area but as a Technical Writer which they don't specifically recognise in their job list. The waiting time isn't really so much of a problem as we need it to gather finances and sort out UK business ;)
Thanks
Helen
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