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Incognito
1st October 2008, 03:21 AM
Moof, I'm sorry about the post but I thought you might be able to shed some light on the whole sponsoring parents issue. We are not in NZ yet, due to arrive in late Oct but might think about my parents in the future.

However how do we stand considering that my dad is my step dad and I have two brothers (half brothers, same mother) in the UK?

Many thanks if you have any advice! :)

P.S many congrats on your good news!!!! :D:bluebanana:raebanana

JandM
1st October 2008, 05:12 AM
If you sponsor your mother (which you would be eligible to do once you've had PR for three years), your stepfather would just come along as her partner. But your half-brothers could mean that your mother isn't able to join you, because they consider where the "centre of gravity" of the family is. If there are more children, or an equal number of children, in NZ to the country the parent is coming from, you're all right. Details here. http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/live/parent/canimovetonz/whatisrequired/ Any chance either of your brothers might go and live in a different country at about the time you'd like your parents to move?

canajanz
3rd October 2008, 02:13 AM
From what TriGirl has posted:
3. has been a New Zealand or Australian citizen and/or the holder of a residence permit or a returning resident's visa for at least three years immediately preceding the date the application under Parent policy is made

I would say that you could sponsor from the date of your first work permit, as that is considered a residence permit. (Just to contradict what I said on your IRRV thread... sorry!)

sorry a work permit is NOT a residence permit.

ant7jen
3rd October 2008, 02:28 AM
My wife has a step father that has raised her since she was 3 and no longer married to her mother. He is in her eyes, her father. Is there no chance of him immigrating to NZ if she sponsors him? She also has a step sister as well.

JandM
3rd October 2008, 12:27 PM
I hope somebody may have some experience on this - I don't remember seeing anything relevant on the NZIS site, I'm afraid. (Something that might have a bearing on the case - did he officially adopt your wife?)

Angela
3rd October 2008, 04:01 PM
Recieved notification by post on tuesday that we were granted residency (parents ), We applied 15th may 08 thought it would be helpful to others who are sponsoring parents .application dealt with at Auckland .So now passports sent off with migrant levy thank to all for advise over the the last few years we have been here in NZ. Hope others hear news soon Angela

ant7jen
4th October 2008, 12:46 AM
I hope somebody may have some experience on this - I don't remember seeing anything relevant on the NZIS site, I'm afraid. (Something that might have a bearing on the case - did he officially adopt your wife?)

I would have to say no since all he did was just marry her mother.

Moorf
4th October 2008, 01:44 AM
I'm pretty sure there are timescales applied to step-parents - i.e the amount of time they were an applicant's step-parent.

I found this.

See: Page 140, INZ Operation Manual - Residence (http://www.immigration.govt.nz/NR/rdonlyres/B9297CAD-5D25-43BE-AFBC-FACA87C79884/0/Residence.pdf) (It has just been revised and released.)


F6.5.5 Definition of 'immediate family'

a. In the context of sibling and adult child policy, 'immediate family' includes all biological or adoptive parents and siblings of the principal applicant.

b. Step-parents and step-siblings are considered to be part of the principal applicant's 'immediate family' unless the principal applicant provides evidence that these family members have not lived as part of the principal applicant's family unit for a predominant period of the principal applicant's life since the step-relationship was created.

NZ Hopeful
4th October 2008, 01:58 AM
Moorf (and Angela) what brilliant news! So please for you all! :raebanana

JandM
4th October 2008, 12:10 PM
Congratulations, Angela! :)

Moorf
4th October 2008, 01:19 PM
Great news for you all, Angela - well done :clap:bluebanana

smitjo
2nd November 2008, 08:40 AM
I am so confused by this now....looked through the entire thread and thought I had is sussed but now sure?! In terms of the centre of gravity thing - my folks live in the UK, we live in NZ, I have one brother therfore we are ok with the centre of gravity thing - well that's what I thought.......but my brother is in South Africa so would this mess the whole process up for my folks wanting to get in on the sponsoring parents visa? Two children - one in NZ and one in SA and folks in UK....please help!!!!

Mickstim
2nd November 2008, 10:23 AM
I am so confused by this now....looked through the entire thread and thought I had is sussed but now sure?! In terms of the centre of gravity thing - my folks live in the UK, we live in NZ, I have one brother therfore we are ok with the centre of gravity thing - well that's what I thought.......but my brother is in South Africa so would this mess the whole process up for my folks wanting to get in on the sponsoring parents visa? Two children - one in NZ and one in SA and folks in UK....please help!!!!

That is no problem at all! As long as your folks don't have more children where they are living than in NZ they are eligible. If they only have 2 children and one of them is here it really doesn't matter where the other one is as their centre of gravity is counted as being in NZ. Good luck with your application!

Bx

JandM
2nd November 2008, 11:36 AM
Yes, good luck from me, too. :)

Debbie
2nd November 2008, 05:13 PM
I've asked this before with no luck but I thought I would ask again.

Does any one know if you can sponsor both sets of parents into NZ. My OH and I both only have one sibling so the centre of family is fine. We would like to sponsor my parents in Sept 09 and OH father in due course. We could meet 2x the financial commitment. I am just looking for confirmation that you can sponsor 2 sets of people. I know that you can't sponsor 2 sets of people under the grandparents visa, which is why I'm worried.

Does anyone know of the right person to contact at NZIS in Auckland to ask them directly? I don't have a NZIS key worker / named contact from our own emigration.

Debbie

Mickstim
2nd November 2008, 07:55 PM
I've asked this before with no luck but I thought I would ask again.

Does any one know if you can sponsor both sets of parents into NZ. My OH and I both only have one sibling so the centre of family is fine. We would like to sponsor my parents in Sept 09 and OH father in due course. We could meet 2x the financial commitment. I am just looking for confirmation that you can sponsor 2 sets of people. I know that you can't sponsor 2 sets of people under the grandparents visa, which is why I'm worried.

Does anyone know of the right person to contact at NZIS in Auckland to ask them directly? I don't have a NZIS key worker / named contact from our own emigration.

Debbie


I don't think there is a problem Debbie. My son has sponsored Michael & I and also his father and his wife (his father & I are divorced of course!) with no problem at all. Go for it!

Bx

Debbie
3rd November 2008, 07:58 AM
:)FAB!

That's what I wanted to hear.:clap

I've looked everywhere for a confirmation that it was possible but it seems to be one of those things where they will tell you what you can't do rather than what is possible.

Thanks again, that is such a weight of my mind, can't imagine what it would be like having to choose what parents to bring over now that both sets want to come.

Debbie

JandM
3rd November 2008, 08:47 AM
Well, now I stop to think about it, it makes perfect sense - you are two individuals, each with a set of parents. So EACH of you has the right to sponsor yours in. And evidently, from Mickstim's son's experience, each parent with a new partner, if that applies.

Debbie
3rd November 2008, 09:17 AM
That's what we thought as well and were very confident with that until it stated on the Grandparent visa that you could not sponsor more than one person (or a person and their partner) at a time. At that point the panic set in as we had always told grandparents that if they wanted to come over we would support/ sponsor them as they are all over the age limit for their own PR application.

I am so relieved that I've managed to find someone who has sponsored more than once.

Mickstim, what was the time gap between your son sponsoring you and him sponsoring his father?
Thanks again for the info.

Debbie

Mickstim
3rd November 2008, 01:29 PM
We were granted our PR then about 4 months later my ex was granted his, so not a big time lapse! I'm not sure when he put his application in (my ex) as he lives in SA, but it wasn't so long after us.

Bx

Jo Jo
3rd November 2008, 01:34 PM
One sec....


More positives from CO, just the formalities and it's all done and dusted...


Needless to say, I'm ecstatic :bluebanana:bluebanana

Oh, I missed this post as I was on holiday. Belated congrats to you all.

Moorf
3rd November 2008, 04:55 PM
Thanks! :)

Just need to get their house sold now... :uhoh


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