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stvvnnttn
4th December 2006, 04:39 PM
Just wondering about the term "job offer" as far as achieving PR. Would that be an offer in writing, an actual job you're working at, or what? What would happen if you didn't take the job you were offered, and just lived off your savings and a pension? Could you stay in NZ? :confused:

jo-and-jeff
4th December 2006, 04:47 PM
Just wondering about the term "job offer" as far as achieving PR. Would that be an offer in writing, an actual job you're working at, or what? What would happen if you didn't take the job you were offered, and just lived off your savings and a pension? Could you stay in NZ? :confused:
offer in writing - yes

an actual job you're working at - only if you already have a Work Visa (otherwise, you're working illegally)

just lived off your savings and a pension - if you come here on the basis of a job offer, you have to take it and work for at least 3 months in that job to get your PR confirmed (otherwise, your PR will be revoked and you will be deported). After that, you will have to renew your PR after 2 years in the country. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that if you can't prove you have continued to work, they will deny you a renewal of your PR.

Jo

StevieD
4th December 2006, 06:38 PM
Yup, that's about it I think :)

borea
11th December 2006, 10:54 AM
They'll also call up the company that you have the offer from to confirm, so you don't need to have anything too fancy. My offer was an unsigned (I think) pdf file that was emailed to me. I didn't need to get original signatures or anything since they were going to confirm it anyways.

stvvnnttn
17th December 2006, 01:48 PM
OK,I understand I'd be deported for not taking the job,but suppose we had enough $ from selling our home to buy an inexspensive home there and I had an income of approx. $700 NZ per week pension income? Just your thoughts. No job, but I'd have an income. The only "for sure" thing in this plan is that I'll have 27 years pension credit by age 55. The dollar amounts are estimated.We've only been there a couple of times so I'm not too sure about the cost of living.

Trigirl
17th December 2006, 03:03 PM
you would be deported for not taking the job - but you would only have to take it for 3 months. after that your permanent residence visa would be exchanged for one that no longer is based on your employment. there are no further conditions for employment after that.

$700 a week is not very much. is that before tax - if so you can reduce it by almost 20% as you'll have to pay NZ tax on it. cost of living is higher than you might imagine here so i'd do your sums carefully.

willowshouse
17th December 2006, 03:04 PM
It makes no difference whether you have an income or own a home .. the point is, if you come here for a job and you don't take it up you are in breach of your visa and you'll be asked to leave. NZ don't just want people to live here and pay taxes .. they want people to work here in the jobs where they don't have enough NZ'ers and to contribute not only to the economy but to the development of the country.

That aside, I'm wondering what makes you think the visa would be revoked after 2 years if you didn't continue to work ( my understanding of it is that as long as you have spent enough time in the country you are OK .... anybody any experience of this or can point me to a 'clause' that says this might happen? What if your circumstances changed and you had a baby and time off work? I can't see how that would work...

Dawn

Trigirl
17th December 2006, 03:19 PM
it was jo who said about the 2 year thing - i guess she must have been thinking about the RRV but as far as i know its got no employment conditions on it.

jo-and-jeff
17th December 2006, 03:40 PM
As I said, I was just guessing. I did go out and look at the Skilled Migrant requirements on the NZIS site just now, and it appears that 3 months is all it takes to satisfy them.

Which really surprises me, since if the migrant throws their job over after that and becomes a drain on the healthcare and benefits systems, you wouldn't think that NZIS would be willing to allow them to stay. It certainly wouldn't be fair to the rest of us who would have to support them...

Jo

:roll

Nelsonian
17th December 2006, 08:57 PM
As I understand it - with residence, you must stay in the job linked to your residence application for 90 days. That satisfies section 18A of the Immigration Act.
Then, in to qualify for permanent residence idefinitely, you either need to be in New Zealand working and earning money for 6 months of each of the next two years or own and maintain a family home in New Zealand (part of what they call having an enduring relationship with the country). It's all in one of their leaflets on Returning Resident's Visas. Good luck -Jane

Trigirl
18th December 2006, 06:19 AM
either need to be in New Zealand working and earning money for 6 months of each of the next two years

you only need to have been in NZ fo 6 months in each of the 2 years. there is no need to be working and earning money.

sarahw
18th December 2006, 06:22 AM
I just got our IRRV's & they didn't want any evidence or info about what we'd done jobwise or earning wise (even though it says so on the forms) - we could have both been on the dole but they didn't ask - I just ticked that we'd set up a home here - they just issued them there & then on the spot - as long as I could give them an address & contact details they just wanted to check that we hadn't been out of the country for longer than we were allowed in order to qualify...

We came in on clause 18A (job offer) & they removed it after 3 months with a letter from OH's company to confirm that he'd worked his 3 months... that's it as far as I'm concerned as long as you're supporting yourself, whatever way you're in.

The IRRV is just the right to return into NZ - you already have Permanent Residence forever when you get clause 18A removed... but if you leave the country you need RRV to get back in & get your PR revalidated (it expires every time you leave the country but with RRV stamp it gets revalidated every time you come through the border). If you just want to stay in NZ & not leave you're allright on the PR stamp alone (but after 5 years you can apply for citizenship & NZ passport anyway).

stvvnnttn
18th December 2006, 02:53 PM
Thanks all ! I'm not a freeloader, just trying to figure how to immigrate and enjoy the country.Maybe it will work out,maybe not! I also understand it's not cheap to live there but I know we would do OK. We're planning a trip to North Island Fall '08. Thanks

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