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jo-and-jeff
11th December 2006, 04:53 PM
Recruitment company leaves migrants short of $600,000
04 December 2006
By Martin Van Beynen

A Christchurch recruitment company owes 229 potential migrants about $600,000, after reneging on its refund policy.

Stu Macann and Associates Ltd, based in New Brighton, closed last month, but two of its three directors continue the migrant recruitment business under a newly formed company, Skills New Zealand Ltd.

Local creditors have also missed out, but 229 potential migrants, many from Third World countries, are owed $600,000 in refunds.

Stu Macann and Associates Ltd started in 2003 with the aim of giving potential migrants an online service (newjobz) to help them secure a job offer in New Zealand which would help them gain residency. It claims to have helped settle 225 migrant families in New Zealand. Clients paid a fee of about $3000, which was fully refundable if a suitable job offer was not forthcoming.

About eight months ago, the company hit financial trouble, and last week Stu Macann and Associates Ltd ceased trading, although the operation, with a reduced staff, has carried on under Skills New Zealand Ltd.

Skills New Zealand Ltd is owned and run by Christchurch businessmen Keith Lightfoot and Stu Macann, both of whom were also directors and shareholders of Stu Macann and Associates.

Suresh Antil, a pharmacist, 50, who lives just outside New Delhi, in India, was one those caught up in the company failure.

In August, he asked for his money back – he paid a $3000 fee of which $2000 was refundable – and in October, Lightfoot sent Antil a letter promising to pay by December 15.

However, on November 22, Antil was informed Stu Macann and Associates had ceased trading, and that the new company continuing the business would not honour the refund undertaking.

Antil's daughter, Mahima Sahrawat, who emigrated to New Zealand with her husband, Arun, three years ago, said her father had borrowed the money for the fee, and would now struggle to pay it back. The $3000 fee was equal to her father's yearly salary.

"It's very much money for my father. He is still paying very heavy interest on the loan."

Lightfoot told The Press the original company was facing liquidation, because of financial troubles, and it had taken legal advice on how it should proceed.

The refund policy had undermined the company, and made it unsustainable, he said.

"We said we'll get you a job or your money back, which was a fantastically charitable thing to say, looking back. But we did, and we have been very successful in placing a lot of people into New Zealand.

"Eight months ago we realised the policy was causing us some problems, because people were taking advantage of it. We were paying out money to people who had used our services for 18 months. They used our time, our energy, our job-searching programme, and then asked for a refund," he said.

Some had been offered 17 jobs, but had turned them all down, and some turned down a job and then moved to New Zealand to take up the job. A total of $1.6 million had been refunded to 667 clients, he said.

"We understand why you are talking to us. We have lost personally. We believe we are doing the right thing by the migrants and always have done. We don't feel in any way we have done anything wrong except we understand we wrote a contract which we did not honour and that's that."

He agreed it was not a good look for New Zealand, but "we do not feel we have let the side down".

"We are extraordinarily unhappy about what's happened here. It's been an emotional drain on us all."

Skills New Zealand Ltd would continue to work for the clients who wanted to stay with the firm but no refunds would be given.

A statement on the company's website that it was a "registered immigration agent" was not misleading, despite the fact the firm was not on any immigration agent register, he said.

"We are registered as much as anyone else is registered. The process of registration is going through right now with Immigration New Zealand and we're part of that registration process."

Immigration New Zealand was happy for firms like his to call themselves registered immigration agents, until the "certification" was sorted out, he said.

The Labour Department's deputy secretary, Mary Anne Thompson, said: "As there is currently no authority that oversees the registration of immigration advisers, agents cannot call themselves registered agents."

The Immigration Advisers Licensing Bill, which was waiting to be passed into legislation, would create a licensing authority within the Department of Labour to administer a licensing regime, she said.

Lightfoot said local creditors were also left owed money by the company change and 21 staff had been made redundant.

Bernard Walsh, chairman of the New Zealand Association for Migration and Investment, said his organisation deplored any actions that brought the nation's immigration system into disrepute. "Certainly, what has happened here will reflect very badly on New Zealand."

Any person who has information relevant to this story is asked to email martin.vanbeynen@press.co.nz or ring 027 220 4453.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/thepress/0,2106,3887196a6530,00.html
Nasty piece of work, that...

Jo

Ana&Steve
11th December 2006, 05:11 PM
Very timely article, Jo, with so many agent questions coming up. What a sad situation. :(
Ana

jess
11th December 2006, 07:51 PM
"We don't feel in any way we have done anything wrong except we understand we wrote a contract which we did not honour"

Nothing wrong except not honoring their contracts. Uhm...that is a pretty hefty "except". :mad:

beano_bill
12th December 2006, 01:11 AM
Never one to have any luck at all, it seems that I've borrowed someone else's - OH almost signed us up to this service :uhoh but as I'm tighter than a ducks wossisname, we decided not to bother.

Feel sorry for those that signed up though,

Beano.

stu70
12th December 2006, 02:32 AM
I am not trying to sound mean but if someone offered me a guaranteed job without knowing much about me and a "risk free" trial (money refund), I would be very suspicious of the offer. If it is too good to be true, then IT USUALLY IS. NZ, Canada or USA, you will find these scums everywhere. The interesting thing is, you will still find this con man flourish under the new name.

gpbenton
13th December 2006, 09:39 AM
When I was first thinking of NZ, I paid these people about USD100 for what I think these people called 'Associate membership'. :no

Basically, they sent me a DVD saying how wonderful their company was, and how good New Zealand is to live in. Then the told me their fees.

I bought the New Zealand bit, and I'm arriving next month, but fortunately I didn't pay them $3000. :yes


Of course, I don't have job yet :roll

astus
5th January 2007, 05:21 PM
....and I still had faith in them a few months ago. :mad: :mad:
Though their last email was not very encouraging...I quote:

"Please do not keep writing to us or phoning us for updates, we will not be using our team to answer the telephone and send emails to you, we would rather use that time to help you move to New Zealand."

I tried to email and call in spite of their threats, since before they ceased trading as Newjobz they said they would arrange some interviews for me, since I am visiting new zealand on february. And they answered with the same stupid line...how on earth does that help me move to New Zealand??

I didn't have to pay $3000 though, I paid $2000 (not that is less hurting). Anyway, I'm not letting a bunch of brainless people who can't do bussiness ruin my enthusiasm...so I just decided to go on by myself, I've already got my plane ticket and I am talking directly to the companies to get my interviews when I arrive.

And at least there will be tesimony that they are a joke, hopefully less people will fall in their net.

See you in a while!!! :raebanana

neilw71
5th January 2007, 06:05 PM
These guys threatened another forum owner after some negative threads about how they were "rip-off merchants" !! How time tells us all a lesson:no

I really wonder how they will attract any business under their new name ?

Sorry for all of you that lost money.

Neil

marcia
6th January 2007, 11:27 AM
Sorry for anyone out there that has lost money.

It is a very stressful time emigrating, and you seem to face so many hurdels you can think it will be easier paying these people money to sort it out - but in the long run you are better keeping the money and doing the work yourself - the same goes for using agents for the EOI/PR process -it may seem daunting at first but its well worth the DIY route!

veronica
6th January 2007, 12:51 PM
when you do it yourself you at least have the knowledge of where things are at.
The other thing I feel, perhaps a bit harsh, but nobody is going to hold your hand when you get here and lead you along so the sooner you take control yourself the better. This is something I often feel when some questions are asked when a few minutes search on this forum would supply the answers. its always worth doing a search before posing a question. I can't help thinking that those who expect to be spoonfed are less likely to make a go of it.

NeilV
6th January 2007, 02:10 PM
:o Ouch!

Sometimes you think your question is different, or at least has a different slant than others searched, or you didn't even know what to search for exactly?

EG I was searching under "Spouse" for info instead of "partner(ship)" and not getting very far at all till someone answered my post pointing me in the right direction.

Also, besides a warm welcome, nearly every new person on the site is told to "ask whatever you need - someone will know the answer" and "there's no such thing as a silly question"

[QUOTE= As usual, no question too silly or obscure on this forum - what would I do without my cyber family. . . . thanks guys.
Babette[/QUOTE]
http://www.emigratenz.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8878&highlight=silly+question

or these :laugh
http://www.emigratenz.org/forum/search.php?searchid=178577

Any chance we might be able to set up a sticky in each section with a collection of the best/most informative links? [or even just a walkthrough on using the search and most common terminolgy/acronyms ;)

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