dean1968
21st December 2006, 02:41 AM
Another tourist raped out venture walking by herself which is becoming problematic and saddens me. I blame the tourist industry for not doing enough... to warn people of the dangers. Below they list the dangers for venture tourism but not about crime here. On average every year an innocent couple (tourrist) is abducted raped and usually murdered. These are the people I feel sorry for...
There is a darwin award which honors those people who remove themselves from the gene pool ensuring that the next generation is one idiot smarter. I have no time for those tourists who visit NZ and do the most absolutely stupid things; such as walking past a safety barrier and then decide to get up close personal with a glacier and have a big chuck of ice around 400kg topple on top their head and kill them. Or visitors getting lost in the bush (risk other people lives looking for them and the cost is astronomical) and talking no survival gear - govt thinking of regulating and forcing people to have gps. Travelling across a dry river bed (warning signs) and a flash flood kill them. Every year Mt Cook our highest mountain gets an "experience mountaineer climber" killed on average, even though warnings are issue in advance about avalanche and weather conditions which they ignore at their peril. The list goes on and on. I can think of a tourist who wanted to kayak over a water riverfall again ignoring warning signs - end result the force of the water suction held him down till he drowned.
My concern is the innocent tourist who thinks NZ is crime free and very safe In my opinion I think Japanese tourists have too high opinion in that regard.At least their tourism industry bring them out in groups. They usually travel in safelyy - in numbers by coaches or tour package groups. We need warning signs to selected groups in particular, gullible tourists being targeted by serial predators. They warn tourists about leaving valuables in their cars, signs are posted everywhere. (Crooks are not stupid, "Show me the money spots") People are warned about their valuables when they visit popular vacation spots but don't warn ignorant tourists about thier lives being in jeopardy.
A prominent judge who has just retired and usually they gagged in office; it is only in there farewell speak that they can talk openly. Has said "he doesn't feel safe walking in his own city at night" and the MAyor of that city says "its crap." I would like that mayor then to have his wife, daughter or son walk alone at night in his safe city. The police are streched to the limit. The police cannot even handle urgent or emergency call outs. Police have commented on burgalaries and lesser crimes like car break ins which are commited by juvenile offenders. Because of their age they are most likely to end up in youth court and do seldom more than 3 months in a bostal. It is a revolving door the police catch them and they are the same offenders and the severitry of thre crime goes unpunished. Regarding home invasion that is considered a more serious offence;police have admitted themselves that they cannot always get their quickly enough. Just not enough police on duty or squad cards etc.
l I tend to side with the judge who is suppose to be locking criminals up when he said, "He doesn't feel safe walking in his own city at night."I want to mention some of the issues that are causing major concern with the judges. Another judge wh has just retire recently wants to bring into evidence a previous offender's criminal history. Usually the jurors have no knowledge of an accused previous criminal history. The prosecution want to show case history now... to get more convictions. A judge could decide if its relevant to the case. A convicted rapist now accused of a new rape / crime murder in a high profile trial could have his criminal history presented by the prosecution to the jury. A swedish couple were abducted / murdered and the offender already had a previous conviction of a rape. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" goes out the window and doesn't play on the minds of jurors thinking are they convicting an inncoent person. Jurors can weigh the evidence with case hostroy of a previous conviction. Career criminals just don't start off with a murder they have a heap of convictions prior to that.
This is a fact. Judges have been told to let criminals out of jail. The jails are absolutely full. Police have to put really bad criminals back on the street who shouldn't even have bale. Others are in holding cells. A holding cell is temporary cell. The next one is to put offenders on home detention these are lesser criminals but some of them are really bad who shouldn't be at home. The govt is revoking or moving it from corrections who determines home dentention because they have not had enough put on home detention. They need to free up space in the jails.Another one is periodic detention - criminals doing commiunity service. This was costing money and the govt try to cut back on this expense as well. Please believe me when I tell you you wouldn;t want some of them doing painting or clearing rubbbish who are high risk offenders on community projects like schools etc. You can get away with murder just about in the country. Really high profile murderers who have done really nasty stuff are getting longer sentences. But the majority it is lesser sentences. IT costs $50,ooo a year to house a criminal in jail. NZ has the second highest per capita per person in jail behind the USA. But t the moment the govt doesn't want to build more prisons. Nor does anyone want a new prison in their backyard and spending money on criminals is not palatable with the public. So the govt is doing a quick fix solution and letting them out. Some of the crimes are despicable I can name some of them. If you get 6 years you can do max of 2.5 for good behaviour with home dentetion thrown in. You waer a bracelet and carry on as if you in prison by staying at home. It is a joke.
Tourists come here with high expectations about NZ being crime free and I think they are sadly mistaken. A case in point I met 2 Scandanivian tourists and they were planning to hitch hike across NZ and I told them they were crazy... that it was lure lunacy. I told them, You "stand out llike a sore thumb. You don't even blend in - clothing wise, language, ethnicity. You don't fit in nor do you know your way around here or anywhere or places that are safe etc." I said to them, "Do you think I could safely hitch hike across your country and they said, "no". I said, "There we go then." Ignorance is bless.
Want is happening now is that our career criminals are starting off on small offences and moving upward. It is a revolving door / prison. I thinks it irresponsible for some sectors of the community who are not warning people of the dangers when they come here. Unfortunately nothing will happen....
There is a darwin award which honors those people who remove themselves from the gene pool ensuring that the next generation is one idiot smarter. I have no time for those tourists who visit NZ and do the most absolutely stupid things; such as walking past a safety barrier and then decide to get up close personal with a glacier and have a big chuck of ice around 400kg topple on top their head and kill them. Or visitors getting lost in the bush (risk other people lives looking for them and the cost is astronomical) and talking no survival gear - govt thinking of regulating and forcing people to have gps. Travelling across a dry river bed (warning signs) and a flash flood kill them. Every year Mt Cook our highest mountain gets an "experience mountaineer climber" killed on average, even though warnings are issue in advance about avalanche and weather conditions which they ignore at their peril. The list goes on and on. I can think of a tourist who wanted to kayak over a water riverfall again ignoring warning signs - end result the force of the water suction held him down till he drowned.
My concern is the innocent tourist who thinks NZ is crime free and very safe In my opinion I think Japanese tourists have too high opinion in that regard.At least their tourism industry bring them out in groups. They usually travel in safelyy - in numbers by coaches or tour package groups. We need warning signs to selected groups in particular, gullible tourists being targeted by serial predators. They warn tourists about leaving valuables in their cars, signs are posted everywhere. (Crooks are not stupid, "Show me the money spots") People are warned about their valuables when they visit popular vacation spots but don't warn ignorant tourists about thier lives being in jeopardy.
A prominent judge who has just retired and usually they gagged in office; it is only in there farewell speak that they can talk openly. Has said "he doesn't feel safe walking in his own city at night" and the MAyor of that city says "its crap." I would like that mayor then to have his wife, daughter or son walk alone at night in his safe city. The police are streched to the limit. The police cannot even handle urgent or emergency call outs. Police have commented on burgalaries and lesser crimes like car break ins which are commited by juvenile offenders. Because of their age they are most likely to end up in youth court and do seldom more than 3 months in a bostal. It is a revolving door the police catch them and they are the same offenders and the severitry of thre crime goes unpunished. Regarding home invasion that is considered a more serious offence;police have admitted themselves that they cannot always get their quickly enough. Just not enough police on duty or squad cards etc.
l I tend to side with the judge who is suppose to be locking criminals up when he said, "He doesn't feel safe walking in his own city at night."I want to mention some of the issues that are causing major concern with the judges. Another judge wh has just retire recently wants to bring into evidence a previous offender's criminal history. Usually the jurors have no knowledge of an accused previous criminal history. The prosecution want to show case history now... to get more convictions. A judge could decide if its relevant to the case. A convicted rapist now accused of a new rape / crime murder in a high profile trial could have his criminal history presented by the prosecution to the jury. A swedish couple were abducted / murdered and the offender already had a previous conviction of a rape. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" goes out the window and doesn't play on the minds of jurors thinking are they convicting an inncoent person. Jurors can weigh the evidence with case hostroy of a previous conviction. Career criminals just don't start off with a murder they have a heap of convictions prior to that.
This is a fact. Judges have been told to let criminals out of jail. The jails are absolutely full. Police have to put really bad criminals back on the street who shouldn't even have bale. Others are in holding cells. A holding cell is temporary cell. The next one is to put offenders on home detention these are lesser criminals but some of them are really bad who shouldn't be at home. The govt is revoking or moving it from corrections who determines home dentention because they have not had enough put on home detention. They need to free up space in the jails.Another one is periodic detention - criminals doing commiunity service. This was costing money and the govt try to cut back on this expense as well. Please believe me when I tell you you wouldn;t want some of them doing painting or clearing rubbbish who are high risk offenders on community projects like schools etc. You can get away with murder just about in the country. Really high profile murderers who have done really nasty stuff are getting longer sentences. But the majority it is lesser sentences. IT costs $50,ooo a year to house a criminal in jail. NZ has the second highest per capita per person in jail behind the USA. But t the moment the govt doesn't want to build more prisons. Nor does anyone want a new prison in their backyard and spending money on criminals is not palatable with the public. So the govt is doing a quick fix solution and letting them out. Some of the crimes are despicable I can name some of them. If you get 6 years you can do max of 2.5 for good behaviour with home dentetion thrown in. You waer a bracelet and carry on as if you in prison by staying at home. It is a joke.
Tourists come here with high expectations about NZ being crime free and I think they are sadly mistaken. A case in point I met 2 Scandanivian tourists and they were planning to hitch hike across NZ and I told them they were crazy... that it was lure lunacy. I told them, You "stand out llike a sore thumb. You don't even blend in - clothing wise, language, ethnicity. You don't fit in nor do you know your way around here or anywhere or places that are safe etc." I said to them, "Do you think I could safely hitch hike across your country and they said, "no". I said, "There we go then." Ignorance is bless.
Want is happening now is that our career criminals are starting off on small offences and moving upward. It is a revolving door / prison. I thinks it irresponsible for some sectors of the community who are not warning people of the dangers when they come here. Unfortunately nothing will happen....