[hels1977]

Hi all

Just been looking at the most recent selection (17th Jan 07)

"All EIOs above 140 & All EOIs with a job or a job offer claiming points between 100 and 135 points."

Based on this, we wouldn't have been selected (and I guess I'm not alone here), we have 125 points and no job offer. Do people think this is just a January lull and things will pick up again or have we missed the boat so to speak?

http://formshelp.immigration.govt.nz/SkilledMigrant/ExpressionOfInterest/HistoryOfSelectionPoints.html

Thoughts/opinions welcome!

[stu70]

If you look at old EOI stats, the first one after a bit of a break always seems to be the "tougher" one. This does not mean anything though. You will see (starting with the next round) the selection more "points friendly" as we go down the year. Good luck with your EOI.
Cheers

[Trigirl]

yes - as stu says its just because of the break. there's been an extra couple of weeks in there so there's be more people with 140+ points and more with job offers and they have to do those first. over a few weeks it'll head back to where it was. provided you've got bonus points for work exp/qualifications in an area of skills shortage i'd expect you'd get pulled out in one of the next ones.

[wanderingoregonian]

yea I remember being gutted this time last year... we had the same points roughly as you & no job - plus they had just changed the poitns from 105 to 140... but the points came down throughout the year plus I got a job offer and I was here by christmas...

[wanderingoregonian]

yea I remember being gutted this time last year... we had the same points roughly as you & no job - plus they had just changed the poitns from 105 to 140... but the points came down throughout the year plus I got a job offer and I was here by christmas...

[hels1977]

Phew (for the second time this morning). Thanks for putting my mind at rest. For some reason I assumed (obviously incorrectly) that the first selection from the pool in a new year would be hefty not reduced. After 1 hour of trying to establish what the word "Family" actually meant, I think reading the Jan 07 pool selection finished me off.

Yes we have bonus points for skills shortgage for his job and qualification and I get to stick my 10 points on there for a suitable qualification so fingers crossed :nice1. We have to wait until April though for 1 reason or another, mainly the proof for the defacto relationship but at least it's more chance to save the pennies, plot and plan :yes.

[StevieD]

yeah, and probably due to the sheer number of people clamouring to get in to NZ - unfortunately, they have the pick of the bunch...

But as others have said, the first after a lull always has the bar raised. You have another 2 draws to go if memory serves me right, so fingers crossed you'll be o.k.

[jnathan]

This is really disappointing for the people who have less than 140 with no job offers. People like me , I am 24 now and unmarried with 2.5 years of job experience are gonna face the curtail list. how could they just increase it from 105 to 140? this is really a smack on our face; the young immigration aspirants.

Any idea about increasing the points?

nathan

[hels1977]

Hello

Welcome to the foum :clap

Not sure how far into the process you are but the points selection hasn't changed. It's been 140 points for immediate selection and over for many months now (maybe over a year).

I posted this because Jan 07 selection was tough and I've been monitoring it for a while. You can and do get selected with less than 140 points, lots of people do every single month, many of them claiming bonus points for skill shortages, and I'm sure some not. It's all down to circumstance. All 140 points usually means is unconditionally selection (subject to change). Most of us (I think) don't have 140 points!!

However I didn't realise that most January selections are tough, so nothing new there. I.e this is old new I'm afraid - it was just news to me. The lovely forum people have clarified that Januarys are always tough.

The other months are better. The points criteria is details on the NZ website, I'm not sure what your personal situation is but you can get all the information there :yes

There's a link to the Points indicator here for the skilled migration route, but again I don't know what route you are looking at doing: http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/stream/work/workandlivepermanently/

Hope that helps!

[Trigirl]

if you have bonus points for work exp or qualifications then you will get in with say 115 or more points. you just might have to wait a few selections.

if you don't have bonus points for work exp or qualifications then you need either 140 points or a job offer or its no go. but even in this situation lots of people have found job offers or even just headed over on a visitors visa then got work when they got there - even easier to do if you are young and single as you are not uprooting a whole family.

[Rusty]

That's what concerns me.
We have 115 points (If I did it right), but no job offer (yet) or bonus for skills.
Only HND Business and reevent work experience + sister there and age.

Can't do anything until the HND is finished (few months yet), but just hoping to get selected

[Rusty]

That's what concerns me.
We have 115 points (If I did it right), but no job offer (yet) or bonus for skills.
Only HND Business and reevent work experience + sister there and age.

Can't do anything until the HND is finished (few months yet), but just hoping to get selected


Another question.
How directly relevent does the work experience have to be?
I am claiming for relevent to my HND in Business marketing, but my employer is a cable manufacturer (not skilled, etc) but we sell into the data market. Can i count the data market part as skilled?

Hope I explained that well.

If there are topics already please post a link.

Thanks again.
(lots of questins still)
Dave

[StevieD]

You have to have the experience in the skills that you are claiming for. Or that is my view on it anyway.

Read the guide for residence application rusty, it is in there - HTH

Steve

[Rusty]

You have to have the experience in the skills that you are claiming for. Or that is my view on it anyway.

Read the guide for residence application rusty, it is in there - HTH

Steve

Thought so, any excuse for extra points!
Thanks

[Haggis]

First post

We're looking at comming out to NZ in July,

Going through the quick assessment we're getting 120 points

On the whole do you think we're likely to get selected without a job offer?

Our plan was to submit EOI around Mar/Apr and come out for 6 months on the UK passport and try to get a job offer, then apply for WP, and tie this back into the EOI

Does this sound feasible?

Cheers for any thoughts
Thomas

[hels1977]

Welcome to the forum :cheers

Okay, this was just January's selection which is tougher than most months. Wait and see what Februrarys is, it should be announced soon. Oh dear, I'm beginning to wish I never posted this, it seems to be giving out the wrong impression :(.

I would look at the link in my first post on this thread and look back through 2006 and see what EIOs were selected, ie, over what points, job offers and those claiming bonus points for skills shortages. This should give you a much better idea of where your potential application might fit and if you'll be selected, hth ;).

[Trigirl]

haggis - if those 120 points include bonus points for quals/work exp in an area of absolute skills shortage then you will almost certainly get selected. if you don't have those bonus points then you almost certainly won't and you'll need to go hunt for that job offer.

[Haggis]

cheers for the reply
thought that might be the case

our 120 points don't include any bonus/skills shortage points

our plan is to come over around July time for 6 months on our UK passports and hopefully get a job offer

cheers
Thomas