alan999
23rd January 2007, 05:43 PM
For various reasons I am chasing PR with a job offer but will need to go out 18 months before the rest of the mob.
If I can't hack it by myself is it possible to return to the UK for say a year until we can all go out together?
And on returning what if any conditions are there about employment?
Alan
Brijan
23rd January 2007, 09:23 PM
When you get PR you will also receive a RRV (returning residents visa ) that lasts for 2 years from the date you arrive in NZ on your residents visa, this will allow you to leave NZ and return with no problem as long as the RRV is still in date
Brian
Smiler
23rd January 2007, 09:31 PM
Alan
It sounds like things are coming together for you at last?
Where will you be heading to?
D
alan999
23rd January 2007, 09:52 PM
Alan
It sounds like things are coming together for you at last?
Where will you be heading to?
D
Hi, yes I'm in Auckland at the moment in search of my job offer. I've been very lucky in that both the B and Bs I've stayed in have had good solid contacts with the trucking industry, and of course they in turn have more contacts. I'm having more luck with this word of mouth approach than with the recruitment people who really only seem to want to help if you are willing to take out a temp work visa, one of them would only help if I agreed to take out one now, and not return to the UK.
So I've got three really good prospects here, am going back down for an interview at Rotorua Thurs am and another at Lake Taupo pm. I've trawled the local papers and have 4 more to phone tomorrow, all direct with the companies.
Of course nothing definite but I am encouraged by the opportunities available once standing on Kiwi soil. If all else fails I think the recruiters will find me somethingi on the temp work permit which will mean a full 18 months away from the clan which is why I'm asking what sort of safety net, without abandoning NZ I have if I can't hack it.
Alan
alan999
23rd January 2007, 09:56 PM
When you get PR you will also receive a RRV (returning residents visa ) that lasts for 2 years from the date you arrive in NZ on your residents visa, this will allow you to leave NZ and return with no problem as long as the RRV is still in date
Brian
Yes but is this still the case with PR which needed a job offer? There must be something to stop somebody getting a job offer, being granted PR, coming out and finishing on the first day and being able to enjoy exactly the same conditions as somebody whose qualifications are sufficient to get PR on their own merit?
Thanks,
alan
marcia
23rd January 2007, 09:57 PM
Can't give you any advice Alan - just wanted to say nice to meet you at Rotorua - sorry our chat was brief - my right arm was getting longer and longer with Emerson wanting to go and see his favourite driver 'Scotty Miers and the tank', hope you manage to get sorted soon - you are definately taken more seriously by employers if you have made the effot to come here and be interviewed!
Good Luck!
wilson182
23rd January 2007, 10:00 PM
I'm fairly sure that you have a three month condition put into your PR. You have to remain in that job for three months before the condition is removed and you receive either the full visa or your RRV..... Im sure someone will know more about this
Smiler
23rd January 2007, 10:03 PM
Alan, we got PR with a contracting job offer while in the UK. OH was made redundant after 8 months in the job permanently.
There were no conditions attached to our PR. He didn't have to stay working for the same employer for x amount of time or anything.
Well done you on coming out here and searching for work. It must be hard on your own and I'm sure 18 months of it would be very difficult, but with a supportive family following behind, I hope it would fly by.
D
P.S. I hope your son is fully recovered now too. :nice1
alan999
23rd January 2007, 10:11 PM
Can't give you any advice Alan - just wanted to say nice to meet you at Rotorua - sorry our chat was brief - my right arm was getting longer and longer with Emerson wanting to go and see his favourite driver 'Scotty Miers and the tank', hope you manage to get sorted soon - you are definately taken more seriously by employers if you have made the effot to come here and be interviewed!
Good Luck!
Hopefully we'll be doing some more chatting soon. Looking at the map, Auckland today, Rotorua then Lake Taupo Thurs, one more interview in the same direction and guess where I might be come Saturday!!!
Thought meeting was a bit savage but good fun. If I can't find a good enough reason to head south I'm at Auckland Fri/ Sat for the NZ modifieds.
Alan
Avalon
23rd January 2007, 10:43 PM
Yes but is this still the case with PR which needed a job offer? There must be something to stop somebody getting a job offer, being granted PR, coming out and finishing on the first day and being able to enjoy exactly the same conditions as somebody whose qualifications are sufficient to get PR on their own merit?
Thanks,
alan
You may or may not get a condition on your visa - but it is only for 3 months.
You should find some info about this if you search under the term "Section 18a" which is the name of the condition.
Just bear in mind that its not necasarily the case that a "better" applicant gets no condition whereas a "worse" applicant has it slapped on - it doesnt work that way.
HTH
willowshouse
23rd January 2007, 10:43 PM
I got PR with a job offer and even though it doesn't specify that I have to work for my employer for a minimum period there is a reference on it to complying with section 18A which when you look it up says that you have to take up your job offer within 3 months and work for a minimum of 3 months in it - after that you need to let immigration know that you have done this just to cross the t's and dot the i's.
The other thing you need to bear in mind is - if you return to the UK to wait for your famiy then you will have to stay the right side of the guidelines for getting your Indefinite RRV when your RRV runs out, 2 years after you get PR. There are minimum criteria you need to meet - the most basic of which is to spend a minimum of 184 days in each of the two years - therefore 184 days in year 1 and 184 days in year 2. Have a look at the General RRV policy for more details.
They have this stuff in place to guard against people 'banking' their PR for the future and not coming to contribute to the economy now.
Dawn
Kim39
24th January 2007, 08:38 AM
Tell me Alan, are you over here as a HGV driver looking for work,or are you in the transport industry in another capacity? I ask this due to the issue of PR with you. I hope you are aware that as a driver you will not get PR from any job offers unless the company is accredited, and only then will you get a WTR visa.
Just clarify this with me please, as i am here as a HGV driver and have been for close to 15 months and we submitted an EOI a few months ago but it was declined due to this fact. The role is on the immediate list, but not the long term list, but the industry is fighting for this to be changed in the sooner rather than later. I don't want you to get your hopes up with a job offer and then be shot down by immigration when they will only issue you a 2 year work visa.
Good luck with the job hunting in the meantime.
Kim
alan999
24th January 2007, 09:03 AM
Tell me Alan, are you over here as a HGV driver looking for work,or are you in the transport industry in another capacity? I ask this due to the issue of PR with you. I hope you are aware that as a driver you will not get PR from any job offers unless the company is accredited, and only then will you get a WTR visa.
Just clarify this with me please, as i am here as a HGV driver and have been for close to 15 months and we submitted an EOI a few months ago but it was declined due to this fact. The role is on the immediate list, but not the long term list, but the industry is fighting for this to be changed in the sooner rather than later. I don't want you to get your hopes up with a job offer and then be shot down by immigration when they will only issue you a 2 year work visa.
Good luck with the job hunting in the meantime.
Kim
I'm a mechanic, which is on the long term list, thanks for your interest. I remember a previous post of yours about Cambridge and diverted just to have a look. Looks a really nice town and handy for Hamilton/ Rotorua too.
Alan
Kim39
24th January 2007, 09:44 AM
Phewww, good on ya Alan. Was a little concerned to begin with, but now you mention the mechanic bit i think i remember you. Have you tried to get into Fonterra, they are always looking for guys on the spanners...just a thought.
Kim
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