[Singel]

Came across an interesting article last Sunday....................

Sunday on Herald had published a five-page special feature with the main title "DOES YOUR SALARY STACK UP?".

It had compiled tables detailing the payrates of 80 of New Zealand's most popular jobs and asked the experts where the pretty pay packets are now and where they'll be in the future.

I couldn't find the link to the article online, so I have scanned the salary data.......... :)

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[suebeenz]

I wonder how many people asked for a raise after reading the article. ;)

Thanks for that - very interesting.

[Debbie P.]

Thanks, that's a really useful guide.

[jewelsvani]

Interesting it's a lot less than I thought positions would get. It's a shame I can not find the wages for my other half's proffesion :(

It seems no one wants analytical chemists to know what they can earn :roll how frustrating. :)

[Helsandfamily]

Thanks Singel, very interesting, and it's not the sort of information that is easy to come by from the UK

Thanks

hels

[dangermouse]

Thanks for posting I am a midwife and it is nice to know that when I arrive in Wellington next month that they are starting me at the top rather than the bottom - still salaries compares poorly to UK - but not going to NZ for the money (although wouldn't say no thanks if they wanted to pay me more)! ;)

Alison

[ezza]

Thanks for that Singel. Col already has an idea of his wage prospects but i was worried about what i was going to do. As said earlier, its not easy to find this kind of up-to-date info in the UK. I now feel a bit better about my future prospects!!

[StevieD]

Can't find me on there!! LOL

[Marco]

Hi Singel,
Indeed a good list - and useful to get a slight idea of salaries. I do not know whether anyone read the small lines at the bottom, but these figures are for Auckland mainly. They used Statistics from Auckland when available and otherwise NZ average. I want to emphasise that salaries vary between different areas in New Zealand.

Cheers,
Anita

[stu70]

Great post, a great favour you have done by putting this info for the rest of us. Regards,

[Singel]

Can't find me on there!! LOL
Steve, here you are ................. :raebanana
http://www.hays.com.au/salary/pdfs06/InformationTechnology.pdf

[Singel]

Here are more salary data........................ :cheers

http://www.hays.com.au/salary/default.aspx

[Pete]

Hi Singel
just wanted to say a BIG THANK YOU to you for the information on Salary scales/ranges ...

That was very useful indeed - and confirmed I need to change profession asap!

cheers Pete

[The Hodges]

Singel,

Thanks for the top post. Very interesting. I was surprised that it had my profession in there in black and white and for that you get http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/signs107.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) & http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/signs153.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

[Singel]

You are most welcome :raebanana :cheers :cheers

:)

[jo-and-jeff]

It seems no one wants analytical chemists to know what they can earn :roll how frustrating. :)
Click on the most applicable job title here (http://www.kiwicareers.govt.nz/default.aspx?id0=10003&id1=i6a_phy) for its description, then click "Pay and Prospects" on the left-hand side to see approximate salaries.

Jo

[KD17]

All interesting stuff.

While going for jobs the agencies continually ask me what salary I am looking for, now at least I can quote a NZ market rate, rather than what I was last on in the UK.

Thanks a bunch

:yes

Keith & Debby

[Rizak]

Many thanks, Singel. It looks like I could be making an equivalent salary there if things go well. I really need to hear back from these guys. The waiting is the worst part.

Is government work on an equivalent pay scale with private industry?

[Singel]

Is government work on an equivalent pay scale with private industry?
Not sure whether this will answer your question ............
https://www.jobs.govt.nz/jobseekerinfo/workingenvironment.aspx

If not, I'm sure someone else will :yes
:cheers

[Singel]

Teacher pay scale : http://www.teachnz.govt.nz/overseas-trained-teachers/employment/salaries
:)

[eternalkiwi]

Generally speaking Government Jobs do not pay as much as Private Sector jobs, as the website Singel posted highlighted, public sector may offer more flexible working hours and possibly more flexible leave.

The gap can be as much as 10-20% on monetary packages.

Though the Government sector also employ a large number of contractors on a long term basis, which may provide another opportunity to earn a good income.

[jailhouse]

Don't know what i'm worth, nothing according to the wife;)

If i ask her about money i have plenty of 0's but no prime numbers in front of them! Hmmm, should i take that credit card away?

Anyway, if i ever get PR, i have approached a Governemnt Department, and although they cannot take me on without PR, they have expressed a very positive interst and told me to apply when i get to NZ. The wage would be £42000, for the first six months, going up after that. I'm still farly yound and willing to take my place at the bottom of the ladder:D

Not particularly bothered, as there will only be myself and the wife, as both kids are grown up, the lass is a nurse, the lad an outward bound instructor and will stay here in the UK.

I have worked all my life in the military, finishing as a SNCO, got a pension (small though, and do not want to touch as this will give a false idea of the living costs), worked free for a charity group for two years doing motivational training for unemployed young kids, own our own house (not sure whether to rent out furnished or to sell outright yet) so, IF, accepted we should be quite comfortable.

Hope this helps the thread keep going. Let me know what you think about the wage, any comments welcome.

Were not big into "must have" items, leave the latest gadgets to the yuppies, enjoy home cooking rather than restaurants, both like walking, fairly fit, beside loving our wine, so if you know what i may have left after tax, would we be able to get by? Come on, throw your opinions my way, good or bad.

jh

[jailhouse]

oops, meant NZ$42K !!!!

jh

[incredible hulse]

Generally speaking Government Jobs do not pay as much as Private Sector jobs, as the website Singel posted highlighted, public sector may offer more flexible working hours and possibly more flexible leave.

The gap can be as much as 10-20% on monetary packages.

Though the Government sector also employ a large number of contractors on a long term basis, which may provide another opportunity to earn a good income.

Must admit was surprised at that. I have found the govt sector to be better payers to be honest (in IT anyway). Recently went for a role at BNZ and a govt department and BNZ were 30K short of the other offer. Similar experience of contracting also. Certainly seems there's a lot of money about within the govt. - guess they're trying to keep that surplus below 12 billion ;)

[Rizak]

Here's where my math skills all fall down.

Taking what I make now, adding in the conversion rate ... I'd need to make NZ$70k to make what I'm making now.

Then I start to work in differing tax rates for higher amounts and try to figure out what costs more/less and it makes my head start to hurt again.

Actually, I think I just figured out a better way. I'll take a look at my tax records for last year and see what my NET income was (after tax). Then I can take that and reverse engineer what an equivalent salary would be including tax. Hey, that might just work. If only I could find that page of tax rates ...

[Singel]

Here's where my math skills all fall down.

Taking what I make now, adding in the conversion rate ... I'd need to make NZ$70k to make what I'm making now.

Then I start to work in differing tax rates for higher amounts and try to figure out what costs more/less and it makes my head start to hurt again.

Actually, I think I just figured out a better way. I'll take a look at my tax records for last year and see what my NET income was (after tax). Then I can take that and reverse engineer what an equivalent salary would be including tax. Hey, that might just work. If only I could find that page of tax rates ...
Here are the NZ tax rates : http://www.ird.govt.nz/income-tax-individual/itaxsalaryandwage-incometaxrates.html
:cheers

[Rizak]

/goes to kitchen to find beer to cry into

Actually, that's better than I thought. You only appear to get taxed the higher rate on the income within that bracket and not on the whole amount.

[stu70]

"Salary Theorem" states that "Engineers and Scientists can never earn as much as Business Executives and Sales People."

This theorem can now be supported by a mathematical equation based on the following two postulates:

1. Knowledge is Power.
2. Time is Money.

As every engineer knows:
Power = Work / Time

Since:
Knowledge = Power
Time = Money

It follows that:
Knowledge = Work/Money.

Solving for Money, we get:
Money = Work / Knowledge.

Thus, as Knowledge approaches zero, Money approaches infinity, regardless of the amount of work done.

Conclusion:
The less you know,the more you make.

[jailhouse]

Hmmmm, it seems we Brits just don't like talking about our wages. Could this be that "Big Brother" Grodon B may be reading the forum.:uhoh

Come on, chuck some posts on so everyone can get a realistic view, and have a good old banter. I know Avalon has done an excellent financial thread, but it would still be good to have a current gossip.

What do you pay in your area fro "Council Tax" rates etc?
Are services, gas, water, electricity etc cheaper or comparable to where you originated from?
Is the cost of fuel cheaper there than where you came from, is it more expensive in the rural areas?
Did you have to pay GST on your property, or did you buy private?
Do you find after tax, GST, medical insurance, car tax\insurance etc you are financially better off than before your move.
Whats the cost of beer per pint - bottle of good"ish" wine red or white?

A few things to chat about, which may all go to helping others estimate their out goings. I expect to start around $42k (NZ) with just me working (wife wants to relax and take it easy:wah ) so i think we will be quite comfortable.

jh

[Trigirl]

sorry - some of us were brought up to believe its rude to talk about how much you earn? also i think many people would rather not post such personal details on a totally open website.

on other things though. rates costs us just over $2k a year. there's a wellington council page where you can look up rates for any property in welly http://www.wellington.govt.nz/services/rates/search/search.html

we seem to be paying about $130ish a month for gas and electricity - a fair bit cheaper than the uk far a similar house - but its also middle of summer so not sure how representative that is.

fuel (i assume you mean petrol etc?) is approx $1.50 a litre. $1 a litre for diesel but then you have to pay a mileage tax on top so its probably similar.

you can buy middle of the road NZ wine for about $10 a bottle if you look for specials. you can pay a lot more too. martinborough pinot starts about $18 a bottle unless you get very lucky. worth it though. i've got no real idea on beer - well maybe $7 a pint or so for macs/montieths?

we are a fair bit better off here despite the lower wages - but thats mainly due to not spending £700 a month between us on travelling into london every day.

[willsken]

On a £ to $ swap we are worse off here than in the UK. As a head of faculty I was earning a fair whack in the UK. Having said that I budgeted on coming here earning $45,000 as a teacher. After landing a HOD job add another 10k to that and I am waiting for my salary assessment to come back. So I will be earning anything between $55K and $69k. It's not nice not knowing but we are budgeting are for the low end just in case. OH is a builder and has just gone self-employed so we'll have to see with him.

This is easy info for me to share as teacher salaries are in the public domain.:)

[jailhouse]

Trigirl, did not mean to be impolite, but thank you for your input:) . Like willsken, my pay was in the public domain (so to speak) having been in the forces everyone knew by rank what each other was on.

I have done quite a bit of research already, and had used the Govt site for the council tax, which while useful, is not as good as "right now" input, as your comment on the utilities show.

The wine seems a good price, but the beer $7 + :wah i was hoping for around $1 LOL.

Willsken, so do you have to pay per mile in NZ on top of the already added fuel tax. Here in the UK they are now "experimenting" with congestion charging, which will penalise drivers for how many miles they drive in town\city centres. Another Stealth Tax.

jh

[Carol]

we are a fair bit better off here despite the lower wages - but thats mainly due to not spending £700 a month between us on travelling into london every day.

:eek:
Truly???!!!!

Blimey!

[Trigirl]

jailhouse - i'm sure you can get cheaper beer than that don't worry! thats just the ones I know about - OH is a choosy beer drinker ;)

the road miles thing is just the method of taxation. petrol is taxed by adding to the cost of fuel - same as in the uk. diesel is not taxed this way and instead is taxed by making users pay a per km licence fee.

carol - that was me rounding down not up! tickets from our place in bedfordshire to london were just over £280 each a month just for the train, then if you wanted to be able to use the tube too (which we both needed given the distance we worked from kings cross) it was just over £350 a month each.

here we pay about $80 a month between us to use the buses when we need to - but mostly we walk :)