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MB
26th November 2004, 05:09 PM
What's the word on the kind of situation whereby an EOI is submitted by a (married) couple, and then the one who isn't principal applicant either gets (skilled) work or at least wants to look for it?
I suspect there isn't much provision within the terms of the original EOI: that is, it's just up to the spouse to get the job either by visiting NZ or through other means... and then submit another EOI with their own details (I assume this is allowed??)

I won't blab on at this point 'cos I suspect that folks reading this know the general kind of situation I'm on about. If needed I'll clarify later.

Cheers,
Matt[/b][/i]

Moorf
26th November 2004, 05:11 PM
Hi, as far as I am aware, you will need to submit another EOI - for instance, even though Woz, who is principal applicant, now has a job it doesn't get noted on the EOI.. likewise if I had got a job first it wouldn't have gone on already submitted EOI.

MB
26th November 2004, 05:18 PM
Thanks, Moorf. I must say I haven't seen anything suggesting that submitting another EOI is "naughty"!
I can't help thinking that this sort of question must have occurred to many families posting here, but I haven't seen it discussed that much.
And thanks also for your point about the spouse job (offer) not impacting much on the original EOI: no reason why it should as it's the other person's details they have.

Matt.

Moorf
26th November 2004, 05:52 PM
When I spoke to immigration last week ( my weekly "stalking" call to my case officer "Jeremy"!!) they did say that we could put in another EOI with Warren's job on it.. but as our other one is going through and he now has a years work visa we won't bother.. so, that would mean it's far from naughty to submit another... just rather expensive!

:nice1

MB
26th November 2004, 06:05 PM
Ta much... and in a way reading your post reinforces an encouraging attitude in NZIS staff that it might be worth highlighting here:

even though selection point is now 100, and even though non-job applicants seem in a sense to be bottom of the pile, "Jeremy's" attitude matches that of an NZIS phone-answerer I spoke to last week in that both seem to be saying, in effect, "Er, you're selected, so don't stress too much."
Now, having typed that, I know that this attitude isn't by any means the whole story nor call for complacency, but it does suggest that folks in line seem to confuse the stress of waiting with the stress caused by imagining that their EOI just isn't up to scratch.
And the reason that's significant is that it reminds us that our EOI is likely to be given fair consideration in time... a fortifying thought during the months of waiting.

Cheers,
Matt.

climbthehill
26th November 2004, 10:38 PM
MB

We had our EOI selected but no ITA with no job offer. The secondary applicant then got a skilled job offer. We were then told that you need to fax London NZIS(if London dealing with your EOI) with details of any skilled job offer even if the job offer was for the secondary applicant. You will then get a case officer allocated straight away if the job offer checks out and then hopefully an ITA.

Best of luck

Dave & Sandra
26th November 2004, 11:25 PM
It's in the back of my mind somehow that you should only submit one EOI - can't remember or find how I know this. :( Any amendments should be faxed through to NZIS.

I think it would only cloud the issue if you submitted more than one.

Sandra

Terry&Sophie
27th November 2004, 01:54 AM
Hi all,

Not sure why I didn't post this question myself because it looks like we may be in that position - Terry is principal applicant on an EOI based on neither of us having job offers, but it looks like I'll be the first to get a job offer. We're selected (end Oct) but have heard nothing since. I suppose when I actually get the offer :hopeso it might be worth phoning NZIS to see what they suggest. We'll be getting work visas anyway bcause we're going out in January and there's no way the PR will have gone through by then.

Thanks for posting the question Matt! :nice1

Sophie

Dave & Sandra
27th November 2004, 02:02 AM
Dave actually has a job on the OSL but I am the principal applicant. We were selected on 29th September with 105 points and just waiting to hear something. Dave is over the age limit, that's why I'm principal applicant.

Sandra

Lil
27th November 2004, 10:07 AM
The chap at the Expo told us you just have to fax details of the second applicants job offer and they will pull your EOI up from the bottom of the pile. It does not matter which one has the job.

MB
27th November 2004, 04:10 PM
And what if whoever finds the job has a start date that is, say, a month or two before the rest of the migrating family members are ready to leave? Can the job-winner go early, assuming passports are all stamped and approved?
By the way, no, nothing's happening... I'm just thinking about different permutations! :mrgreen:

Cheers,
Matt.

Juniper
30th November 2004, 03:47 PM
I asked NZIS a similar question:

"what would happen if I applied as a skilled migrant rather than his partner, but one of us was selected and approved for entry significantly before the other person was considered?" (this was before i knew that it was unusual to submit seperate EOIs)

they replied that it was acceptable to submit two EOI's if we thought it would improve our odds of being selected, but we should likely just go with whoever had the most points.

have you been selected yet? If you have already been selected, sounds like you should just inform NZIS of the change in your circumstances rather than submitting another EOI.

All things considered, I think there's no reason to submit an additional EOI, unless maybe you haven't been selected yet and you're nervous of your chances.

In any case, a call to NZIS should give you the best idea of how to proceed.

Moorf
30th November 2004, 04:36 PM
The chap at the Expo told us you just have to fax details of the second applicants job offer and they will pull your EOI up from the bottom of the pile. It does not matter which one has the job.

And yet NZIS here in NZ said that, unless your job or spouses job is on the EOI you submitted, then gaining employment in the interim will not effect or be added to the existing EOI. You will instead be directed to get a work visa to enable you to start work asap and you just wait it out until your ITA comes through. At this point you can add in the info about the jobs gained...

MB
26th February 2005, 06:55 PM
Hoiking this up to the top -- after a long time -- with a new twist:

If you're awarded the 2-yr open WTR permit, does it matter whether it's the prinicpal applicant or the partner who finds the 3 months of skilled work first (or at all)?

Anybody talked with case officer, perhaps, about this?

Cheers,
Matt.

Terry&Sophie
26th February 2005, 09:50 PM
We're here on 2 year WTR visas after starting the EOI process. I (not the principal applicant) found work before we got the ITA so we needed a WTR visa to be allowed to start work. Wasn't allowed a normal work visa because the job is with an accredited employer. :?

We now have the ITA, but the situation has changed from neither of us having job offers to both of us being here and working. :nice1

We've been busy settling in so haven't had a chance to talk to a case officer. I'm worried that now we're here, and working towards residence, they won't want to process our ITA to give us residence sooner. Obviously we'd rather not wait 2 years for residency given the 5 year wait after that for citizenship! :eek

Has anybody been in this position before who can give us some advice?

Thanks :hopeso

Sophie

Moorf
26th February 2005, 10:12 PM
Similar position here... we came out with no jobs but a selected EOI. We submitted our ITA last week (Friday) and Woz has been working for 4 months - we both have 1 yr work visas. They say that our ITA will be processed by end of next week.

Terry&Sophie
26th February 2005, 10:36 PM
That's cool Moorf, I just hope the fact that we're on work to residence not just work visas doesn't affect it! :hopeso

Will speak to our case officer soon and see what the situation is.

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