Moorf
7th February 2007, 11:52 AM
We're due to get our IRRV's renewed soon as the initial 2 year one is about to expire - I've just been told that's another $100 each to apply and have them stamped in the passports! :roll
bpk
7th February 2007, 12:32 PM
As I mentioned in a previous thread, they just suck money and keep sucking all the time and in a stupid way.
sarahw
7th February 2007, 12:33 PM
Did you apply for your visas on the same application with one of you as a main applicant & one as a partner?? If so then its $100 for the 2, not each - we just got ours done before Xmas at NZIS office in Welly.
Moorf
7th February 2007, 12:38 PM
Thanks for that info Sarah - the immigration office didn't make that clear! :nice1
bpk - the $100 is for them to give us IRRV's - we currently have our PR 2 yrs RRV. If I remember correctly you already have an indefinite RRV so you won't need to pay out this fee!
bpk - the $100 is for them to give us IRRV's - we currently have our PR 2 yrs RRV. If I remember correctly you already have an indefinite RRV so you won't need to pay out this fee!
bpk
7th February 2007, 12:46 PM
bpk - the $100 is for them to give us IRRV's - we currently have our PR 2 yrs RRV. If I remember correctly you already have an indefinite RRV so you won't need to pay out this fee!
No. I still struggle with residency.
No. I still struggle with residency.
KerryS
7th February 2007, 03:52 PM
Moorf aren't you almost eligible for citizenship? You must have applied before the rules changed, and they take the 3 years residency from the time of arrival, not from granting of PR.
I never bothered with renewing my RRV, just went straight to citizenship - which was a lot quicker in my case as I delayed even applying for PR until I had been here for 2 years...
I never bothered with renewing my RRV, just went straight to citizenship - which was a lot quicker in my case as I delayed even applying for PR until I had been here for 2 years...
Moorf
7th February 2007, 04:57 PM
That's right Kerry, we can go for citizenship this September. However, when I posed the question of whether our entry date in to NZ (Sept 04 on visitors visas) or our PR date (March 2005) was the one used for calculating 3 yrs residency from for the purposes of sponsoring family they have said 3 yrs from PR.
When getting citizenship I wonder if you still need to have the IRRV up to date? Although we'll pay the money and get the IRRV's in case we need to leave the country for any reason in the next few months.
What are the cost associated with getting citizenship, if any?
When getting citizenship I wonder if you still need to have the IRRV up to date? Although we'll pay the money and get the IRRV's in case we need to leave the country for any reason in the next few months.
What are the cost associated with getting citizenship, if any?
Singel
7th February 2007, 06:16 PM
.............. and they take the 3 years residency from the time of arrival, not from granting of PR.
This is correct, here is the info http://www.emigratenz.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8097&highlight=citizenship
.................... Although we'll pay the money and get the IRRV's in case we need to leave the country for any reason in the next few months.
We are due to go for our IRRV in March and citizenship in June. We have read the info about the citizenship that the process may take up to 8 months which means that I would expect to get my citizenship in early 2008. A friend of us had applied for citizenship in June 2006 and still waiting for it. Therefore, we will definitely go for the IRRV, in case we need to leave this country on emergency family matter.
:cheers
This is correct, here is the info http://www.emigratenz.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8097&highlight=citizenship
.................... Although we'll pay the money and get the IRRV's in case we need to leave the country for any reason in the next few months.
We are due to go for our IRRV in March and citizenship in June. We have read the info about the citizenship that the process may take up to 8 months which means that I would expect to get my citizenship in early 2008. A friend of us had applied for citizenship in June 2006 and still waiting for it. Therefore, we will definitely go for the IRRV, in case we need to leave this country on emergency family matter.
:cheers
Singel
7th February 2007, 06:23 PM
Moorf, here is the info about the citizenship
http://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/wpg_URL/Services-Citizenship-Citizenship-by-Grant-Frequently-Asked-Questions?OpenDocument#one
:cheers
http://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/wpg_URL/Services-Citizenship-Citizenship-by-Grant-Frequently-Asked-Questions?OpenDocument#one
:cheers
Anita & Marco
7th February 2007, 06:36 PM
Hi Singel,
Will your partner also go for NZ citizenship? Not a lot of us do that, since we will loose our original citizenship by doing that - which is a very bad regulation in my opinion and something that is not fair either, but I will not tire anyone with that issue.
Cheers,
Anita
Will your partner also go for NZ citizenship? Not a lot of us do that, since we will loose our original citizenship by doing that - which is a very bad regulation in my opinion and something that is not fair either, but I will not tire anyone with that issue.
Cheers,
Anita
Singel
7th February 2007, 06:42 PM
Hi Singel,
Will your partner also go for NZ citizenship? Not a lot of us do that, since we will loose our original citizenship by doing that - which is a very bad regulation in my opinion and something that is not fair either, but I will not tire anyone with that issue.
Cheers,
Anita
Anita, it is only me going for the citizenship. OH is not going for the citizenship, he is keeping his Dutch passport in case we have itchy feet :D
Will your partner also go for NZ citizenship? Not a lot of us do that, since we will loose our original citizenship by doing that - which is a very bad regulation in my opinion and something that is not fair either, but I will not tire anyone with that issue.
Cheers,
Anita
Anita, it is only me going for the citizenship. OH is not going for the citizenship, he is keeping his Dutch passport in case we have itchy feet :D
pieeater
7th February 2007, 07:08 PM
We also applied for Citizenship in June.We have been approved and have our ceremony in a couple of weeks.Quite looking forward to it really.Then it's Three N.Z. passports @ $150 and one @ $80 and the circle is complete.Seems like a lifetime ago when we first sent our application for residancy in.
veronica
7th February 2007, 07:38 PM
that rule of losing your original citizenship is set by your home country rather than NZ as I understand it.
sarahw
7th February 2007, 08:08 PM
the process may take up to 8 months
All of my friends that have citizenship took about 12 months each to get it - just be prepared it may take longer than the quoted 8 months!
All of my friends that have citizenship took about 12 months each to get it - just be prepared it may take longer than the quoted 8 months!
speckythecky
8th February 2007, 12:41 AM
sorry for the stupid question but whta is a IRRV??
Croft
8th February 2007, 03:05 AM
that rule of losing your original citizenship is set by your home country rather than NZ as I understand it.
That's correct - NZ regulations permit dual nationality, as do many other countries including the UK. UK regulations even permit 'suspension' of UK citizenship in order to attain another countries nationality, then regaining it!
Resumption
If you renounced your British citizenship or British overseas territories citizenship (see Note below) to keep or get another citizenship, you have a right to be registered and resume the citizenship you renounced but you can make use of this only once. If you have already given up and then resumed one of these citizenships, and renounced again, the Home Secretary (for British citizenship) or the Governor of a British overseas territory (for British overseas territories citizenship) will decide whether you can resume it again.
http://www.uknationality.gov.uk/
That's correct - NZ regulations permit dual nationality, as do many other countries including the UK. UK regulations even permit 'suspension' of UK citizenship in order to attain another countries nationality, then regaining it!
Resumption
If you renounced your British citizenship or British overseas territories citizenship (see Note below) to keep or get another citizenship, you have a right to be registered and resume the citizenship you renounced but you can make use of this only once. If you have already given up and then resumed one of these citizenships, and renounced again, the Home Secretary (for British citizenship) or the Governor of a British overseas territory (for British overseas territories citizenship) will decide whether you can resume it again.
http://www.uknationality.gov.uk/
sarahw
8th February 2007, 05:35 AM
IRRV is Indefinite Returning Residence Visa. Your residence visa is already indefinite providing you meet the terms of the visa, but when you have PR you only get a 2 year RRV. You have to reapply for RRV after 2 years to prove you've been here for the terms of your PR. If you have then you're issued with IRRV & then they just transfer your visas to new passports indefinitely unless you get citizenship & don't want to keep your old passport going.
Citizenship is set by the country of origin, if you've got UK citizenship you can get dual nationality. There are loopholes for those countries that don't normally allow dual nationality - for example in Germany you can't have dual nationality, but a friend of mine got round it & obtained dual nationality by prooving she HAD to have NZ citizenship to apply for jobs in her area of experience - they have to give you it if it puts you at a disadvantage in the country you're living in...
Citizenship is set by the country of origin, if you've got UK citizenship you can get dual nationality. There are loopholes for those countries that don't normally allow dual nationality - for example in Germany you can't have dual nationality, but a friend of mine got round it & obtained dual nationality by prooving she HAD to have NZ citizenship to apply for jobs in her area of experience - they have to give you it if it puts you at a disadvantage in the country you're living in...
KerryS
8th February 2007, 07:31 AM
when I posed the question of whether our entry date in to NZ (Sept 04 on visitors visas) or our PR date (March 2005) was the one used for calculating 3 yrs residency from for the purposes of sponsoring family they have said 3 yrs from PR.
When getting citizenship I wonder if you still need to have the IRRV up to date?
That's correct - to sponsor your parents you need to have had PR for 3 years. To gain citizenship you just need to have been resident for 3 years, which means you are eligible from September.
I never had an IRRV, as that would have taken longer to get than my citizenship, so I can't answer that part.
I'm sure my citizenship didn't take too long to process either - about 5 months I think.
When getting citizenship I wonder if you still need to have the IRRV up to date?
That's correct - to sponsor your parents you need to have had PR for 3 years. To gain citizenship you just need to have been resident for 3 years, which means you are eligible from September.
I never had an IRRV, as that would have taken longer to get than my citizenship, so I can't answer that part.
I'm sure my citizenship didn't take too long to process either - about 5 months I think.
Hannah
8th February 2007, 07:31 PM
Do you have to apply for IRRV at the point your original RRV expires or can you just wait until you actually need it?
I'm assuming that its perfectly legal to remain in NZ on your residence permit even though your RRV has expired. I also assume that you only need your IRRV if you leave (at which point you could then apply for it)????
hannah
I'm assuming that its perfectly legal to remain in NZ on your residence permit even though your RRV has expired. I also assume that you only need your IRRV if you leave (at which point you could then apply for it)????
hannah
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