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Old 2nd November 2009, 08:12 PM
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Isn't IT Professional still on the Immigration long term skills shortage list?
Not only that but it's also an area of future growth.
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My experiences here have been very similar and it's not because of the recession. It's been like that for the 4.5 years I have been here and probably a lot longer. I have found recruiters and employers always seem to be looking for the 100% perfect fit for a given role. Despite the supposed skills shortages, they're simply not prepared to take a chance on someone who fits 85% of the bill and quite frankly it's insulting that they can't see a smart educated person with wide range of experience in front of them who can and will quickly learn the missing 15% on the job. This is why they jerk people around so much, they spin it along for as long as possible without making a final decision in the hope that someone better will come along.

The same old tales get trotted out time and time again, how they've not decided how much to pay, someone is on leave and they can't make the final offer, they have changed their mind, the job is no longer available yada, yada yada. I see it in action every day, managers place advertisements and dither around for weeks and months on end without making a decision and play every delaying tactic and excuse they can, in order not to fill the role until Mr or Ms Right comes along.
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Old 5th November 2009, 07:05 AM
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If we had walked away when my OH lost his job we would be $80k better off than we are now, what a waste of our hard earnt money being optoomistic that a job would come .soon
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I absolutely know how you feel. I really wish we had "cut our losses" a long time ago, but we kept hanging on, not realizing that certain companies would keep OH hanging on for MONTHS while they decided who their top candidate would be (and not him).

It is amazing how fast savings can get eaten away and the next thing you know, you are one grocery shopping excursion away from being broke.
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Old 5th November 2009, 09:34 AM
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Paul and Rach,

I'm sorry to hear that you feel so isolated in NZ. I hope that after a couple of months of posting things are looking up for you now.

I have my fingers crossed you
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Old 10th November 2009, 03:39 AM
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My experiences here have been very similar and it's not because of the recession. It's been like that for the 4.5 years I have been here and probably a lot longer. I have found recruiters and employers always seem to be looking for the 100% perfect fit for a given role.
We had very similar experiences while we were last in NZ in 2007 when the economy was at its peak. Recruiters and employers had a lot of good thing to say and after 2 or 3 rounds of interviews, the phone rings and they say, Sorry, you're not the one.

We're looking to return - and dont know if we're being foolish to think things will be different, as we have 3 kids to consider now. Reading Paul & Rach's account certainly puts things in perspective.

Completely agree with CJChris, "It is amazing how fast savings can get eaten away....." that was exactly why we couldn't take the risk to stay on and wait for a job offer to come along....

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Old 15th November 2009, 03:21 PM
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My experiences here have been very similar and it's not because of the recession. It's been like that for the 4.5 years I have been here and probably a lot longer. I have found recruiters and employers always seem to be looking for the 100% perfect fit for a given role. Despite the supposed skills shortages, they're simply not prepared to take a chance on someone who fits 85% of the bill and quite frankly it's insulting that they can't see a smart educated person with wide range of experience in front of them who can and will quickly learn the missing 15% on the job. This is why they jerk people around so much, they spin it along for as long as possible without making a final decision in the hope that someone better will come along.

The same old tales get trotted out time and time again, how they've not decided how much to pay, someone is on leave and they can't make the final offer, they have changed their mind, the job is no longer available yada, yada yada. I see it in action every day, managers place advertisements and dither around for weeks and months on end without making a decision and play every delaying tactic and excuse they can, in order not to fill the role until Mr or Ms Right comes along.
Hear hear; my OH went through all this, despite having 20 years experience that knocks most Kiwis into a cocked hat - which is actually part of the problem!

She finds them about 10 years behind in their work practices and notes that they dislike employing anyone who will make them look bad....

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