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citizensmith
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:11 pm    Post subject: Can my wife work if only I have a work permit?

Greetings Fellow Revolutionaries cool .

I was wondering if Shirl would be allowed to work in New Zealand if only I have a work permit? Would our wolfie cubs be entitled to state education or do we need permanent residence for that? It would be bad for my heroic image for the cubs to go to one of these Dianne Abbott pandering bourgeois private schools Embarassed No. Any comradely advice would be much appreciated.

Wolfie
martwend
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:39 am    Post subject:

Hi!

If you are going out on a work permit, then Shirl will need a Visitors permit and the kids will need study visas unless they are too young to go to school in which case they will need either visitors permit or can possibly go on a parents visa......we are going through all this at the moment as our residence application is now useless with the recent changes. So that we don't miss the start date for a new job in NZ we have been told by the immigration bods in London that this is the way to get ourselves out there. We can then start again on the residence application under the new system. A pain in the neck or what!!!


Hope that helps,

Regards,
Wendy
citizensmith
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 5:01 am    Post subject:

Thanks for your comradely response sister. As far as I can tell a Visitors Permit will only last one year at the most and Shirl would NOT be allowed to work. Is that right? Does the study visa get the wolfie cubs into a state school or would they need to go private Uhoh? Thanks again.

Power to the People!

Wolfie
martwend
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:31 am    Post subject:

Hi!

I think that a visitors visa is just that and does not allow you to work. I guess you could apply for a work permit once you actually arrived fingers crossed

So far as the sprogs are concerned, my understanding is that a study visa allows them to attend state school....we have no intention of paying if we can avoid it!!! I have contacted lots of state schools in the area we are going to and it seems the rural schools are the most laid back and keen to have your kids attend....keeps their numbers up.

The only problem with the study visa appears to be that you have to name the educational establishment that they are to attend and we don't want to commit ourselves to a school until we arrive and can look around the different areas. We are going to check this out with the immigration bods in London so I'll let you know if we get any better info.

Of course if the points system hadn't just changed as we were about to submit our application for residence then we would have gone straight for residence visas which would have allowed us to work even though only Martin has a job offer and the kids to attend school No

The most important step is to have a job offer....preferably on the shortages list and then work on all the other problems. We are going and no amount of beuraucracy is going to stop us....plus we've sold the house Razz

Wendy
citizensmith
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:32 am    Post subject:

Come the glorious day you will surely be rewarded. Thank you again comrade Wendy.

martwend wrote:

So far as the sprogs are concerned, my understanding is that a study visa allows them to attend state school....we have no intention of paying if we can avoid it!!! I have contacted lots of state schools in the area we are going to and it seems the rural schools are the most laid back and keen to have your kids attend....keeps their numbers up.


Are children well educated in the rural schools? I have heard that parents who want the the kids to do well at school take them into town?
martwend
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:13 am    Post subject:

Hi!

On re-reading the forms for the work visa we think the kids can go to school on that without study visas Razz . I think the study visas are for older students.....we are going to check with the embassy and i'll let you know if we find out. Nice One

So far as the quality of schooling is concerned I think it depends what you are looking for and what you consider important in education. The rural schools, as here, may not have the same in facilities as in the towns but they are smaller, friendlier and in a great environment. The town schools have more emphasis on uniform, discipline and rules. Having said that we are going to check out as many schools, in town and country, as possible before making the final choice.

This web site gives you lots of information about state and private schools throughout NZ
www.tki.org.nz

Good luck!

Wendy
citizensmith
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:20 am    Post subject:

Thanks again for your advice comrade and that link. I followed it onto another site http://www.ero.govt.nz which seems to be the New Zealand equivalent of OFSTED with inspection reports for schools. The New Zealand reports seem a bit more waffly than the British ones which I think are more to the point. Mind you in schools in England they send all the naughty kids away on external courses while the inspectors call so the schools will look better. Who knows if "the truth" is really out there.

Cheers

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Wolfie
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:49 am    Post subject: Shirls Visa Application

Hi Citizen,

If you are applying for a work visa for yourself as the principle applicant and submit Shirls application at the same time you will find a section on her form she can tick to get a a work visa de facto as your partner/wife so her working should not be a problem. i.e If you get one she will get one (if you apply together and you are sucessful). Be aware though that to qualify for a long term work visa (i.e. 30-36 months) your employer will need an 'approval in principle' from NZIS in NZ for you to submit with your application unless you are on the priority occupation list or occupational shortage list.

Good Luck

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martwend
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 10:07 am    Post subject:

Hi!

The Immigration office says that kids need study visas and should be able to get in to state school with them. Pre-school kids go on a parents visa.

Loads of extra paper work after completing the residence application forms but hey what else is there to do on these long dark nights Yes (don't answer that!)

Wendy
citizensmith
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:23 pm    Post subject:

karltsmith and martwend,

It will be recorded in the great red book that you are official heroes of the revolution. Yes

I think we might just be able to have a crack at shifting our small revolutionary cell (a.k.a Wolfie, Shirl and the Wolfie cubs) to New Zealand.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find 'ageing political agitators' on the skills shortage or priority occupations list so I might have to try a different approach. Wink

Cheers

Wolfie




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