Confused about emigration....

lizzieburns · Testing The Water Joined: 20 Apr 2004 Posts: 2

I am very confused about how the emigration process works, and have been looking into the skilled migrant category - the only problem is, that without the offer of a job it is difficult for us to get enough points to lodge the application...

Does anyone know of any other ways to gain residency in NZ? I am enquiring on behalf of a 51 year old female, who works in an area in which it is not so easy to obtain employment in from here in the UK, therefore the working holiday visa is not an option - I wasn't sure if there were any ways of getting residency if you had capital/money to take with you.

Any hints, tips or ideas would be much appreciated....

Many thanks Mr. Green

Lizzie

BTW - Does anyone know if there is any option if you are going to study in NZ of being able to take parents with you, if you are over 16, and if so, what is the usual course of action that is taken after graduation, with regards to permanent residency?!?! Sorry if I am vague.... Sad

Bill B · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:18 am Post subject: Re: Confused about emigration....

[quote="lizzieburns"]

I am very confused about how the emigration process works, and have been looking into the skilled migrant category - the only problem is, that without the offer of a job it is difficult for us to get enough points to lodge the application...

Many thanks Mr. Green

Lizzie

Hi Lizzie,

Your post is a little confusing Hmmm

1/ Are you looking to the Skilled Migrant Category for yourself or someone else?

2/ Is that person's job on the POL. If so, then, assuming age, qualifications, job offer, job experience etc; etc; is ok that person may apply. (Current points total is 180).

3/ If job is only on the OSL, then WTR can only be obtained through a Government Accredited employer (I believe).

4/ Have you looked at the NZIS website in detail?
www.immigration.govt.nz

5/ Check the other listings on the forum, you will be sure to get more helpful information there.

Hope this helps fingers crossed

Bill B

veronica · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:27 am Post subject:

The other thing that might help you to sort out what you can and can't do is a trip to NZ house in London. We have always found them helpful there although trying to get info on the phone is a nightmare. if a trip to London is feasible it might be worth it.

karltsmith · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:10 pm Post subject:

Hi Lizzie,

you need to supply a lot more info before anyone on the forum could comment sensibly on your friends options! E.G. type of work, quals, experience, capital available to invest, whether or not a business is to be started and if so has she any experience of owning/running a business, any family connections? Hmmm

dan-ish · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:21 pm Post subject: Just so you know

Hey Lizzie,

The guys (and gals) are right - more info is needed for us to give you some useful advice. For now I will help by clarifying Bill B's post. POL stands for Priority Occupations List: you get more points and are more likely to get the all important visa. OSL is the Occupational Shortage List: a list of occupations that NZ are short on! WTR stands for Work To Residency: an immigration route. NZIS is the New Zealand Immigration 'Service'.

His advice is sound - particularly the bit about looking on the NZIS website as it is more or less all there. And some more specific questions are answered in other threads on this website.

Dan-ish Razz

lizzieburns · Testing The Water Joined: 20 Apr 2004 Posts: 2

Thanks for everyones feedback - I was a bit vague, sorry!

To clarify, it is my mother I am asking on behalf of, and she has some distant cousins out there, but she has never met them and they do not know her either. She is a instrumental teacher and would be looking to either go out to study to gain an NZ teaching qualification and then stay on if that was possible (we are unsure what the progression for graduates of NZ UNI's is, if ther can stay in the country or if they have to leave...!) or she would be looking to go out there to seek work, with some capital behind her to buy a house and support herself initially... The NZ website is unclear as to whether or not you can gain residency on the strength of having capital, but not enough to start up a business though. She has many years of teaching experience, as well as experience as an orchestral musician.

If this is of any help, or makes a little more sense, I should be grateful of any feedback!

Thanks again for everyones replies...

Lizzie

veronica · Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:04 am Post subject:

Hi am I getting the right picture here. It reads like you and your partner are looking to emigrate and your mum wants to go at about the same time under her own steam rather than wait the three years 'till you can sponser her. So really you have two avenues of enquiry.

karltsmith · Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:53 pm Post subject:

Two approaches immediately spring to mind.

1) That your mother try's find a suitable position with 'an organisation of national repute' and can then apply under the 'Talent' section of work to residence. I'm thinking orchestras here to make use of her obvious experience and talent.

2) She could enrol as a student on a suitable course i.e. one recognised by the NZQA and get a Student visa. On this visa she can also apply for up to 15 hours per week + student holidays to earn money legitimately. I'm thinking of her perhaps giving lessons to school chilldren during the hols or in the evening or working via a music school.

In each case the max she will get 30 months, but in that time if she gets offered a job she could enter the EOI pool with a reasonable point score! Not wishing to be rude but her age is obviously against her and you would have to work quickly to ensure selection before she turns 56 as she would not then be accepted but the family route may then be open to her and having you here will help in that resect if the ' centre of garvity' of the family is in NZ.

Hope that gives you a starting point!!

Best wishes Karl