Does anybody have experience with NewJobZ.co.nz?

Moorf · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:20 pm Post subject:

Jeez, I could find people jobs for $6,000!! Laughing

I too had been tempted in the past and have researched these places several times now.

Personally (and this may not be everyones ideal scenario) I feel that there is nothing that they can do that I can't (with the exception of "contacts" which can easily be gained by networking - Canterbury Software Cluster emails me with networking opportunities / meetings etc so that's an ideal start (if in IT)).

markkellaway · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:41 pm Post subject:

I've thought many times about using NewJobZ, from moments of laziness through to moments of desperation. I even had an interview lined up with them in London after the emmigration show at sandown which I cancelled.

my biggest turn off is the fact that the price they charge has reduced a number of times over the last 6 months, this either means they are incredibly successful or are not attracting clients at the current prices, the second seems to be the most likely option.

Keith Litefoot does seem to be a very likeable and enthusiastic guy, both through email and face to face, but then so would I if I was trying to sell a high "value" service. The fact is that if the company was that successful more people would have heard of them and it would be much easier than it is to find positive reinforcement of their service. I've looked a number of times for independent feedback and cannot find any, not one, this makes me VERY suspicious. Yes

Mark.

P.S. I'd be very happy to be proved wrong here, I'll even cough up the money myself if this is the case!!

brummiejules · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:49 am Post subject: NZ

Hiya

NZ have sent me an email with all the costs - Associate fee: USD$297 ... Members Fee: NZD$5997

if you want me to forward the email to you with all the details - let me know

I havent dealt with them yet, other than a few enquiries via email ... i'm still thinking about it - its a lot of money to find Sad

Take care

julie

hamish65 · Testing The Water Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 6

Why would anyone pay for a job and hand over part of their wages for a year when New Zealand seems to by crying out for skilled workers? Confused

markkellaway · Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:43 pm Post subject:

People will pay because, until recently, most have needed a job offer to apply for residency. Also, and I include myself in this, many of us would feel much more comfortable having a job to go to rather than having to look when we get there. Uhoh

NewJobZ relies on these requirements and it seems like an easy, if expensive, option. I think most people on this forum who have come across them have thought about it, then decided not to use them. After all you could fund yourself in NZ for a few months of intensive job hunting for the fees they charge. Nice One

Cheers,

Mark.

alexh · I'll Hang Around A Little Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 34

"Why would anyone pay for a job and hand over part of their wages for a year when New Zealand seems to by crying out for skilled workers" Hamish asks.

I have considered using these guys, because my points total is only 105 (due to age). My skills are not clear cut, being more project management/Business Analysis than something definite like MCSE/Citrix etc. So getting anyone interested from NZ in me is almost impossible. I have been trying for almost 2 years, and with another drop in points looming at my next birthday, I will just have take time off work, go over and try and get an offer. The mad thing is I have more than one of the skills required on the POL (due to age therefore experience), but age counts against you.

Also I'd be taking my kids who are already degree qualified (2 of them and the other will probably also finish his education in the UK), so NZ would get 3 highly skilled young people and one slightly old git with plenty of IT skills apparently in demand.

Anyway, thats why I thought having someone working for me in getting me a job might be worth it. Still seems a bit suspicious though.

I am on most of the job sites, including Canterbury Software etc., but as soon as I say I need a work visa or a residency permit then they say, call me again when you have right of abode etc....

Anyone else of my age on the site (49) in similar circumstances - experiences?, I'd love to hear your views.

cheers

alex

SIMAKRA · Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:14 pm Post subject:

Alex,
I am in a similar position like you, but I still think that it is better to invest the money and spend some time over there to look for a job yourself.
I only have 100 points and next year my age will take away another 20 point. So I decided to quit my job and go to NZ by the end of this year.

Well, we can still hope that the 115 ponit needed right now might drop further, but to me this company seems to be a bit like a slave trader.

SIM

alexh · I'll Hang Around A Little Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 34

Sim

I have come to same conclusion. I'm thinking of going in October, before fares rise, and while most NZ people in a position to interview are not on holiday.

good luck to you

cheers

alex

Dave & Sandra · Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:27 am Post subject:

Hi Alex

You're a youngster compared to my husband who turned 60 three days after his job interview. He is a structural design engineer/civil engineer so maybe it was easier for him - I don't know.

Dave e-mailed loads of companies (got the addresses from the internet) with his CV telling them that we would be in NZ for a week and would they be interested in interviewing him while we were there. He sent 32 e-mails and got 4 job interviews, 2 in Auckland, 1 in Wellington and 1 in Palmerston North. He was offered 3 jobs and then had to decide which one he wanted. We didn't want to live in Auckland, but would have if that was the only job offer. We didn't particularly want to live in Wellington, but the salary they offered him was a joke anyway. Palmerston North was perfect so that's the one he plumped for, they called him on his mobile and hour after the interview and said he had the job.

One advantage we had was that he could tell them that he would be back in a month after giving notice in the UK, leaving me here to sort out selling the house etc. I don't know if you would be in that position. So a month later he got back on a plane and started work the next Monday. 2 days later he came out of the NZIS office with a 2year work permit.

We obviously can't apply for PR through the usual channels because of his age. I am 50 but don't have the required skills to be able to be the primary applicant. 20 years in banking and the rest in office accounting/admin work are not the skills NZ is looking for. We are hoping that we might be able to go the LTBV route fingers crossed

As we have an idea for something which he has many years experience of and he has also previously run a business in the UK. Don't know if we will succeed but worth a try.

Best of luck to you and hope you can get some inspiration from our story.

PS Check out my post in the 'Has anyone 'just done it' thread. We had a contact in Wellington, Shawn Gilhooley, she can help people looking for jobs in the Wellington area. The organisation she works for is a government initiative and they don't charge - they just want to match up people to the demand from employers in Wellington.

Raeven · Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:40 am Post subject:

Hi, Sandra,

Off Topic is me as usual, but I just had to take a moment to say how inspirational I found your story. You and Dave both obviously committed fully to your dream, and you illustrate perfectly the good old saying that... obstacles are what you see when you take your eye off the goal. Personally, I don't think there is any doubt you will attain your LTBV status!

I really enjoyed reading about your adventure in migration and will look forward to hearing the rest of the story!

All the best, Rae

alexh · I'll Hang Around A Little Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 34

Hi Sandra

You don't know how much your post cheered me up. It seems you have been through all the stuff we have. My wife has a million exams, but none will earn any points - so its all down to me!

Ideally this could wait one more year until my son finishes his A levels, but age being important for visas etc., we decided I'd go asap and my wife will stay here for a year with him and my two girls. Not ideal, but long term view is this is the best chance we have. At the end of next year, if I am lucky enough to get a visa or PR, my wife and son will join me, also one of my daughter's on her GAP year from uni.

We also thought about LTBV, and I met the guy who (I think) heads up the business visa stuff in London. I felt thoroughly depressed after that, because he said that my idea (running a Computing/Accounting Services franchise), would not be considered good enough to secure residency.

I did read your other post, and already I have saved the Shawn's email as I thought definitely one to give a go! I think I will go for Dave's approach and email people with a date when I am coming - at least that way they can see I am serious.

Thanks again, I will take heart from your post, and hopefully make it as well.

Good luck and thanks

alex

Dave & Sandra · Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:51 am Post subject:

Thanks Rae

Following your posts with interest too - not much longer for you now. Clapping

My worldly possessions went on their way an hour ago. So that's one less thing to think about now. Nutcase

hamish65 · Testing The Water Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 6

markkellaway · Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:51 am Post subject:

Hi Hamish,

They don't require you to be in NZ for interviews, or so they say. They seem to think that employers will be happy with telephone interviews. I must say that I am on the cynical side here as you've probably realised by now!! Razz

Mark.

alexh · I'll Hang Around A Little Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 34

Mark

You aint the only one cynical, I have trawled everywhere, and cannot find one person outside of their own advertising literature prepared to say they used them.

So nice idea, but no thanks. I'll be spending my holiday looking for a job .

fingers crossed