EOI or work to residence

Tara Sage · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:18 am Post subject: EOI or work to residence

Help

My husband is a fully qualified carpenter and is therefore on the OSL, we have thought long and hard about a move to NZ and were convinced that we should do an EOI. However it has been suggested that we go down the work to residence path, but we don't know which is best.

Advise please Uhoh

Graham Barnes · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:03 am Post subject:

Hi Tara,

Personally we're going down the WTR pathway at the moment, because
a) SMC is currently settling down, and points are currently very high. It is also taking a long time to work through the current backlog of applications. This might be a major turn-off for potential employers.
b) WTR is quicker (once you have an offer of employment!), and leads onto residency as part of the process (without the need for EOI points).

(Does carpentry require any form of registration...if so, you cannot gain residency until you have gained full reg...I'm a teacher, and teachers cannot get full reg for 2 years anyway).

Some other contributors have been doing both EOI and WTR/work visa simultaneously, but this of course, costs more.
Anyway, you pays your money and takes your chance....!

Graham

Tara Sage · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 6:47 pm Post subject:

Thanks Graham

No Carpentry doesn't require registration luckly so one less complication!

Just need to fing work!

Our main concern doing a WTR is will they give us residency eventually we don't want to move our lives to NZ and then have to come back.

We have a 6 year old son, and feel that NZ will give us all a much better lifestyle. We don't want to disrupt everything and end up coming back to UK

It is all so complicated, but as we always say if you want it enough you will get there in the end.

Cheers

wilson182 · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 7:53 pm Post subject:

My husband is a welder and this is also on the OSL, but my understanding was that you could only apply for WTR if the job was on the POL!!!

Help

Graham Barnes · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 9:19 pm Post subject:

Bit confusing this one. Looking at the NZIS website, it says pretty categorically in a few places that need to be on the POL to be eligible for WTR (one of the "four paths").

But later ("POL Work Policy) it says that you are eligible for residence within WTR if you are on the OSL Confused

On balance, I'd agree with wilson182...but don't quote me!

There must be some advantage of being on the OSL, given NZ is short of such people...but I can't find it!! Perhaps it means that the employer does not need to to a labour survey to justify not employing a native.

Graham

ruthj · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:52 pm Post subject:

Hi

We have an EOI lodged at 175 points awaiting draw for PR but rather than keep waiting here (house sold and NZ employer been waiting since Oct 03 interview!) for it all to be processeed, have also gone down the work to residency visa route too. Got our visa within 1 week as I am on POL and flying out 19 April!!!

I know what you mean about the uncertainty that you will get PR but we were assurred by Visa Officer that once 24months elapsed and we fulfilled criteria ie: minimum salary, health, police etc then almost a guarantee of PR. Also, by then after 24months of working in NZ you will have more points accrued for the EOI anyway and can get PR that way.
I think that although it is extra cost it gives us 2 pretty good route of getting PR

Good Luck

Ruth

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Moorf · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:28 am Post subject:

Hi, it's me again, the woman who just can't get her head around visas and permits Nutcase

hey, I can run a marketing co. but I just can't deal with the entry requirements stuff!!!

Basically - if you get a job offer can you then commence that job immediately whilst you apply for a WTR by applying for a Work Permit?

At this rate I shall be suffering here in the UK for years before I can even decide HOW to get to NZ!!

Moorf aka Helen

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rebecca · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:59 pm Post subject:

Hi

If your job in on the OSL but not the POL you can not enter on WTR, only through EOI.

As your job is on the OSL, once you have a job offer you can apply straight away for a work permit. This should come through very quickly.

To get a work permit all you need is the job offer, no need for medicals or police checks.

If you then decide to submit an EOI you will only need a police check and medicals when your EOI is pulled from the pool.

Hope this clears things up.

Rebecca xxx

veronica · Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:33 am Post subject:

Is there a list of abbreviations used on this site because some poor bod who stumbles onto it for the first time is going to be totally baffled what with WTR and POL etc, Cheers Veronica

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Tara Sage · Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:08 am Post subject:

Thanks Rebecca we understand a lot more now Clapping

Fergus · Testing The Water Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 6

I'm confused.

Can anyone out there help? My job (pathologist) is on the POL but I require registration in New Zealand before I can start work. I don't think that I can be fully registered until I arrive in New Zealand and undergo an interview. Does that mean that I can't claim for points for Skilled Employment on the EOI? I filled out an EOI application online and stated that my registration application was in progress. This appeared to give me 180 points, as opposed to 125 without registration. My fear is the they won't accept "application in progress" and my total points will be reduced. Should I therefore apply for a WTR visa rather than a Skilled Migrant visa. From what I can make out from the immigration website, this appears to entail applying for a WTR visa for myself, a visitors visa for my wife and two student visas for my children. Then when in New Zealand and fully registered, I go through the EOI process to eventually get the Skilled Migrant visa. This seems unnecessarily complicated with various fees being required along the way. Is this really the only way to do it? Seems like a bit of a money spinner for the NZ Immigration Service! Hmmm

Caven · Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:43 am Post subject:

Tara, sent you a PM. Cheers.