On the job training and experience and the POL

justbishop

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but I'm really confused and need some help Shy

My husband has learned all of his skill "on the job" at his family's company (where he currently works.) He finished about 2 years of college (university,) but dropped out, so he has no degree. He has taken a few 1-5 day work related computer courses (advanced Windows, Microstation, etc.) for which he has certificates, though.

My husband's occupation (Boiler tube draftsman) seems like it might qualify as the POL occupation:

Group - IT Professionals
Occupation - Project Manager (mid range projects)
Required skills - NONE
Level/s - NONE

First of all, what would he need to provide to prove that his duties match that of a "project manager?" Need that be his official title? Would a letter from the president of the company (his uncle,) on company letterhead be enough documentation?

Secondly, would anything need to be assessed by the NZ gov't in this situation? If so, how would they assess a qualification that he doesn't have, and which is identified as unnessacary per the occupation description on the POL?

karltsmith · Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:12 pm Post subject:

Hi Justbishop,

Sorry to be a bit negative but from what you've said your husband is a CAD draughtsman first and foremost not an IT specialist. My interpretation of the category you describe is for IT development project management.

To enter Uni however your husband must have obtained entrance level qualifications and these might get him 50 points as a trade or basic qualification but these may need to be assessed by the NZQA if they are not on the recognised qualifications list. I Hope this helps. Remember this is only my opinion and could be wrong! Good Luck.

justbishop · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:28 pm Post subject:

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I'm afraid Karl is right on this, CAD wouldn't be classed as IT..
Besides, he would need qualifications.. (look on the page before)

Minimum of 5 years full-time Technology work experience in a relevant area of expertise AND completion of a recognised programme of formal training in that area
Bachelor of Science with majors in Computer Science or Information Science

justbishop · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:10 pm Post subject:

Oh, didn't see that...got to the POL from the "forms" page...which page are you talking about? Sounds like it's got some info I could use Hmmm

karltsmith · Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 9:30 pm Post subject:

I spoke to an IT recruitment consultant in London in October last year and they were very specific about the skills they require. They produced a list of specific occupations, qualifications and job descriptions that had more detail than the info in any NZIS documentation. This leads me to believe that this info was client driven and came directly from potential NZ employers . However even the IT bubble is begining to burst in NZ according to the person I spoke to. They are trying to locate mainly systems development professionals and programmers accross a range of disciplines and are trying to recruit at the top end of the spectrum.

I don't know enough about the college system in the US but I think you or your husband would need at least this level of education (on paper) to satisfy the NZIS on the qualifications issue.

Is it possible for you or your husband to complete a short college course in US to get a college diploma based on your work expeience? In the UK some Univesities will take into account these factor and give you advanced standing credits to help you on your way and speed up the education system!