Permanent Resident in New Zealand - some impressionss

Timbo · Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:54 am Post subject:

Here here. If you sit around doing nothing at home all day (and that does not include visiting this site), then you will probably sit around doing nothing wherever you are.
As moorf says, life is what you make it. We have some fantastic places to visit here in uk, and we like nothing better than jumping in the car and wizzing off to the west country for the weekend. It helps having relis down there for sure, but even so it is a mini adventure. Trouble is, it is fast becoming an expensive hobby, simply to visit my mummy in Devon. The roads in nz are just begging you to get out and see the place, whereas you spend as much time in traffic as you do actually driving in this country.
The outdoor life is THE thing to do down under, regardless of the weather.

Moorf · Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:57 am Post subject:

I want to try lots of new things too that we aren't so well "equipped" for here in the UK - sea Kayaking and deep sea fishing in particular!

Macs Gold · Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:02 pm Post subject:

Madhu_India · Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:54 pm Post subject: half full vs hald empty

Hi!
let me first tell you people about me, I am trying to go to NZ in August and have been going thru your forum from last 4 months or so, let me tell you, nothing can be better than this forum for anybody who wants to go to NZ forget about immigration or PR thing only.
Fabulous just amazing.
On my friend on forum abt her view on NZ, you gave me a insight as how my life would be in NZ. Thanks for that from the bottom of my heart.
Yes you people are also right about generalising the things, but let take it in good manner. We have more facts to refer to now.

This is the point I was missing in this forum from quite a time, nobody was telling me the real facts, Mroof according to be is the most rational person to touch to if u need any help same goes for JCM, he is so helpful. We Indian hear so many bad things about european not friendly, racist but you people have literally opened my eyes.

Yes I am with a view that you will not get to that professional status as you have been in your past country but that is what immigration is all about. Going to a new place, makeing yourself suit to place and climb up the ladder.
Other countries will not give you bed of roses but yes they are giving you a chance to prove yourself. Go ahead prove yourself.
Will US give you a chance like that, please pardon me if I hurt somebody here, forget about Green card thay are not even letting you in there country.
Evereybody I am just putting my heart out, I feel NZ can be a good place, you people have shown me in your forum that people are friendly, helping and looking forward. It is our very personal attitude how we take it; good or bad. For me its good.
My fellow forum people you have shown me some good things nad also thanking you for showing some real facts, keep it going. We need some true facts, come on open up, it will only help other people like me and get them ready for things to come. All appreciation for you all.
I am in IT with 6 years experience as CEO of a good Indian software Company and would love to talk somebody from same field or with anybody with a motto "NZ is the way to go".
Cheers and have fun.
Regards,
Madhukar Nice One

Lukas · Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 7:25 pm Post subject:

Kayaking, riding truks...horses , so one and so one…for this kind of thinks New Zealand will welcome you as tourist not, as Immigrants.
The Immigrant profile wanted in NZ is the hard working, down the earth, career oriented guy…
I may also ask where is the negativism in my posts?

markkellaway · Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:15 pm Post subject:

Hi Lukas,

Can I ask why the two things are mutually exclusive? I think what NZ wants is people who contribute to society, sure they want people to bolster the skills that they are short of but they also want to maintain the outdoor life that they are so proud of. Society isn't just about working hard and being "career oriented", it's the whole package that matters. If this move was just, or even mainly, about a career move I'm sure that most people thinking of moving to NZ from the UK would not do so.

Someone who works very hard during the week can still enjoy kayaking, horse riding etc., or simpy walking in the beautiful countryside. While I was there we went to Hanmer springs, sure there were quite a few tourists but many of the people there were locals taking advantage of the facilities on their doorstep. Clapping

I'm not sure what opportunities are open to you in Romania but here in the UK many of the things that are affordable and "on the doorstep" in NZ are simply too expensive or too difficult to get to. As I said earlier, it's the whole package, or balance of work and leisure, that people are attracted to (in my opinion).

Regards,

Mark.

Madhu_India · Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:23 pm Post subject: negativism?

Respected Lukas,
I personally didnot find your message to be negative point et al. It is just that i may have been wrong in choosing my words, please pardon me for the same.
I find you message to be a eye opener, which if you think is a right thing to do. People tends to tell you only good good things and they wish negative whould not happen with you or the people they know.
I personllay found your message to be fabulous nothing less. Keep it going. Who is saying, you & I all are not hard workers, we all are and that is why we are looking forward to that country.
Regards,
Madhu

Timbo · Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:27 pm Post subject:

I would have to agree with Mark there. If it were simply a case of looking for a better work environment, we would not consider nz purely on economical grounds. I.E I can earn a lot more money here in uk than is likely in Nz so why go to the trouble and expense of going there.
It is all about the bigger picture. Just ask most native NZers what they do from Friday pm onwards, and I bet you dont get the answer "overtime at work". It is more likely to be Tramping/Fishing/Boating etc.

Lukas · Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:45 pm Post subject:

...that's a good joke my friend. Here is the difference between some one with a certain NZ experience and someone dreaming about a better place.
...the Kiwis I was staying and working will rather tell you "I am overtime working on the weekend" for some extramoney.
Believe it or not the people in NZ are working hard and many of them can afford fishing or boating only on the holydays. Many have never been outside their country some never outside the South Island.

markkellaway · Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:58 pm Post subject:

Lukas,

Tha last reply was what I meant about being negative! Hmmm

I have been to NZ and have spoken extensively to "natives", many hold up what Tim is saying. I also have some good friends who have lived in NZ for some time, sure he does overtime some of the time (and gets paid for it, how many "professionals" get paid in the UK for overtime? I know I don't!), but at the weekend he does go fishing, and driving, and walking......

The point is that in NZ you don't need to spend lots to enjoy the country. OK lots of NZ people have never been outside of the country, but again I don't think many of us are moving there to become jetsetters? Have you taken a look at the "Why leave the UK" thread?

Mark.

Timbo · Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:01 pm Post subject:

That was not a joke Lukas. And yes I have been there, if only for a short while. I am also in daily contact with lots of people who are born and bred Nzers, so they know what they are talking about.
I do have to say that most of them are in fairly rural areas and not the major cities like Auckland/ChCh, so maybe it is a bit different for them.
A fair number of these people also own second holiday bachs in other areas and think nothing of a 2>3 hour drive down for a spot of R&R, as often as they can. These are not mega rich folk, they just enjoy the outdoor life at every oportunity.

Lukas · Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:04 pm Post subject:

...what can I say man?...probable you are right I am not British...I am Romanian and as fare as the nature is concerned we have almost everything in Romania...when we emigrate we are looking for better paid jobs and professional opportunities.

Lisa.C · I Like It Here Joined: 03 Jul 2004 Posts: 75

Hi Lukas,

I respect your opinion, but for me it's not about the money, Hubby is a Chippie here and can earn far more in England than we ever could in NZ,
however my children will be free to go out and play, i daren't let them out of my sight here, the people there are far more laid back, the emphasis is not on the latest gadget or gismo, fashion or car, for us it's not about materialism at all, i'd be happy growing my own fruit and veg, seeing my kids live an outdoor life, so for us it's a lifestyle choice, what do you think, are we mad Nutcase

Lisa

Moorf · Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:09 pm Post subject:

markkellaway · Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:17 pm Post subject:

Helen you are so tactfull! Why couldn't I have said it like that? Embarassed

Mark.