Points Calculator & Some Advice

Azazel · I Like It Here Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 64

Has anyone else noticed that the points calculator appears screwed up?

I am 28 years old and work within the IT sector.
My work involves most levels of IT - from local client problems to LAN/WAN networking, server management and web/database development.

When trying to work out the points inidicator it appears I should (I think) get points as follows (take from: http://www.immigration.govt.nz/pointsindicator/pointstable.htm)

50 points for a recognised basic qualification
5 points as its in a future growth area
30 points for 10 years experience
10 bonus points as 6 or more are in a future growth area
30 points for my age
10 points for my spouse's qualifications
Total: 135

When I run the calculator (here: http://www.immigration.govt.nz/pointsindicator/default.aspx) I only receive 120 points using the following answers:

Yes to:
Recognised Basic Qualfiication (50)
Qualfiication in a future growth area (5)
10 years relevant experience anywhere (30)
6 years or more experience in a future growth area (10)
Work experience gained in a comparable labour market (?)
Age 20-29 (30)
I have a partner, she has the required english proficiency and has a recognised basic qualification (10)

Anyone know why or can see something wrong?

Also, what would be suggested as the best way (of all the options) for me to approach wanting to emigrate to New Zealand?
I would be pretty much willing to fly immediately and lodge with friends I have in Dunedin if this helps.
It seemed there used to be a 6 month option where you could fly to look for a job, has this completely disappeared now?

Apologies for such a long post Razz

karltsmith · Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:19 am Post subject:

Hi Azalzel,

There must be something wrong with the calculator..... it would not be the first time!!!

Re what you should do...with 135 points I think you should lodge an EOI now! You might be lucky and its far cheaper than flying out there!

Also in your area of expertise if you find a job offer outside Auckland you can add another 10 points!

You could also explore the possibility of trying to get work visa as you are on the OSL, having secured this you can travel and look for a job.

Once you have a job you can add another 50 points and the rest should be plain sailing for you because by then you'll have 185 - 195 points which is pretty close to the theoretical maximum!

I should get some copies of your CV out to a few employment agencies in the mean time and let them know your existing and potential points score!

Azazel · I Like It Here Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 64

Hi karl thanks for replying

I have a work visa form at home thats, well, confusing to say the least.
My main worry is the section "I plan to to enter on this date and leave on this date".
Do I give a best guess date I want to go there or does it have to be specific?

Once again thanks karl, I do think the work visa might be my best way in (unless I can get the work to residence with a company).
I have seen a job I would like, in the place I want to live with a company thats on the work to residence list.
Unfortunately it appears the job is for kiwis or visa holders only ... unless this is just something they have to state before they can convert to a "work to residence" offer?

Barry
(the username is just my often used one on a 100 other forums!)

karltsmith · Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:40 am Post subject:

Hi Barry,

If you can talk to a visa officer about getting a long term work visa max 30 months...if you get one of these you can get a one way ticket and ship goods without a customs bond! If not one year from date of entry I suppose! I think you stand a better than average chance of getting in anyway!

Regards

Karl

karltsmith · Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:42 am Post subject:

Hi Barry,

Incidently call the Auckland office tonight using the telediscount number I posted on this subject see other thread...cheapest way to call NZ and it will only cost you 1p/min

Karl

Azazel · I Like It Here Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 64

I'll try talking to one (I take it its easiest via the Auckland number?)

Another quick question (sorry) whilst I wait to ring them.
Whats the deal with taking my wife with me?
On the form theres the bit about partnership but it appears that is for people wanting to emigrate to live with there NZ partner.
What about people like myself applying for a Work Visa?
Are partners automatically allowed to come along (obviously with the ability to speak English etc)

karltsmith · Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:48 am Post subject:

You must include your wife on the application with you as the principle applicant. If you get a visa so will she and it will be a work visa so you can send her out to work too ....ha..ha..

You can inspect the immigration manual in detail by accessing it from the NZIS website...if you are really keen you can download it but I only recommend this if you have broadband....its a monster!

Good Luck

Karl

Azazel · I Like It Here Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 64

2mb line at work and home Nice One

.. do you have a link handy at all?

karltsmith · Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:58 am Post subject:

Yes its

http://www.immigration.govt.nz/Operations+Manual

Happy reading!!!!!

Karl

Grey · I Like It Here Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 74

Azazel · I Like It Here Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 64

We recently went on our hols (December) and thats when we made the final "yes we must do this" decision.

In my excitement I applied for a job when I returned, thinking a work visa wouldn't be as hard or as long as it is to apply for.

The company stated that they only kiwis or work visa holders need apply, but in my haste I did.
Thing is, this company is on the "Work to Residence" list.
Are they only stating the above because they have to initially (before they can offer it elsewhere) or is it more likely that its a standard footer on www.workotagonz.com as all jobs seem to have this on.

I'll apply in principal anyway, seems it takes a while so nothing to lose and everything to gain really.
Shame about not being able to get a Work Visa without a job offer as any job seems to require one now :/

Grey · I Like It Here Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 74

I think some agencies/firms put this in the advert to cut down the numbers. Some people will use job offers just to get in the country, just wasting everyone's time. Also employing an foreigner can lead to a bit more paperwork, although it's not required for PR (or if on OSL). The delay also puts them off, but I reckon the SMC process should only take a few months.

If you're on the OSL then once you get an offer you can get a work visa processed on the same day, if not just a couple of weeks. Tell this to the employers, as long as you're ready to go. You could also lodge an interest at the same time as going for a work visa.

I'm sure something will work out though.

Azazel · I Like It Here Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 64

I hope so, for a long time I've loathed life in the UK. I have to say theres pretty much nothing I like about the country anymore.
New Zealand was everything I wanted and more, I hope I get the opportunity to move :)

Thanks for the help, much appreciated Nice One

karltsmith · Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 9:00 pm Post subject:

Hi Grey,

Yes you're right I about the additional form I didn't mean toi imply that there was provision for a second applicant on the form. My wife and I are going through this process now so we can start working. We are awaiting an approval in principal and have an EOI in at the moment.

I must sound a note of caution about travelling on a visitor permit to search for a job you may run into trouble with immigration if they later find your only purpose was in actual fact a job search.

I believe JCM has made some comments on this very topic...be careful no to screw up your chances!

Grey · I Like It Here Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 74

I know what you mean but in reality I don't think it's a problem, & NZIS will often reccommend doing this. There was talk of something being included in the regulations to clear it up, not sure if/when it's coming.