Qualifications

Azazel · I Like It Here Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 64

I'm in the midst of filling out the EOI and I am sure I read that if you were on the OSL that relevant qualifications to that job would be classed as 50 points.

I'm buggered (you gotta love english phrases) if I can find the information anywhere, has anyone else seen this?

Also, does anyone know if you can find out the points allocated for previous qualifications tested by the exams board?

I am one of those people who has lots of experience but lack qualifications.
I do have a full City & Guilds Level 2 in IT and I have noticed in some trades this is classed as a 50 points worth exam.
Does anyone know if this one has been rated?

Thanks in advance

Barry

Azazel · I Like It Here Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 64

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JCM · Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 3:57 pm Post subject:

Hi Barry,

You get 50 points for having a recognised basic qualification (e.g. trade qualification, diploma, bachelors' degree). Your job doesn't have to be on the OSL to get the 50 points.

As regards your other questions, I don't know. Unless someone else on the board knows, you'd probably be best to get a quick assessment done by the NZQA so you can be sure where you stand.

Nige · Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 9:56 am Post subject:

Hi Barry

I dont think the C&G Level II in IT will do you much good. Sorry to say. I presume you have no Microsoft based qualifications?

Remember an MCP is enough for a recognised qualification. One Microsoft Exam will give you some sort of verification of your skills.

Windows 2000/2003 are very important if your interested in the technical side of IT. There are also companies in the UK like Training Camp that can provide you a full MCSE in 14 Days. But believe me it is very very hard. Not for everybody. Also costs about £5000 so not cheap.

The more quals you have the easier to find work i know that is obvious but you may not realise how much easier it is when you tell a possible employer you are and MCSE.

I have been an IT engineer for 10 years and never required qualfications, i went on the course and did my head hurt at the end.

All the best and hope you get through

Azazel · I Like It Here Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 64

Same here Nige I'm 12 years in the business now and have not needed to be a "Minesweeper Consultant, Solitaire Expert" :)

I didn't know the MCPs counted as one ... are they 50 points worth?
I've done some MS courses before but never for a qualification .. mostly because I spent most of the time training the trainer (its a shame people still don't realise a paper qualification, especially within IT usually means not a lot with reference to there ability).

Nige · Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:29 am Post subject:

Hi Barry

Its not worth 50 points but it makes you eligible to apply for jobs on the OSL. As MCP is listed within the guide.

I am personally going for that route, I leave a week today and have many companies wanting to see me due to my experience and as you say the paper MCSE. lol

I agree with you i know many "engineers" who download the cram nuggets and sit the exam without any course work.

PS I like the cartoon! It is so true!!!

Azazel · I Like It Here Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 64

What would you suggest is the best approach then?
To say the information available is confusing is putting it mildly.

Basically my long term goal is to live as a resident in New Zealand, what is the suggested best way to go about this if the EOI points calculator doesn't quite reflect how good you know you are?

Is there a visa to get out there for 6-12 months to find work which after securing work you then fill in the EOI as a matter of course (as obviously the whole form is heavily biased to people who have jobs not people wishing to emigrate with skills)?

PS. Thanks for the quick response and good luck!

Arlevien · I Like It Here Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 56

Actually a lot of companies are already aware of thie "fact" for ppl with ceritification. If you observe most jobs being posted they only label certifcations as only an "advantages" not a preference.

TG · Testing The Water Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Posts: 4

Azazel · I Like It Here Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 64

Either/or (I do know that much :) )

JCM · Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:46 pm Post subject:

Hi, you claim points once for your highest qualification. So if you have a masters you can claim 55.

Sadly you can't claim 55 for a masters degree plus 50 for some other qualification.