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lin thorpe
Testing The Water
Joined: 06 May 2004
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Location: gloucester
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 10:00 pm Post subject: Retiring |
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Hi
My Mum and Dad would like to retire to NZ and are over 65 (just)! They have a brother living in NZ and wondered firstly if anyone else has been successful in retiring over there and secondly if having a sibling living there would be enough to enable them to emigrate.
Look forward to hearing from anyone who is able to help!
Thanks
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justin.g.s
I Like It Here
Joined: 10 Mar 2004
Posts: 76
Location: norwalk,ca
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Read my question below about investor qualifying, sorry to say but you just cant retire in new zealand. Unless they have a ton of cash, like 6 or 7 million cash on the side.
Pretty brutal, but thats the way it is. |
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veronica
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Joined: 17 Dec 2003
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Location: christchurch
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| they can spend 6 months of every year here though |
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rob
I'll Hang Around A Little
Joined: 11 Jan 2004
Posts: 12
Location: The Lake District
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty brutal, but thats the way it is.[/quote]
Pretty brutal, and that's how it should be. If retirees were catered for in the SMC the cut off would be 300 points, with 100 bonus points for settling anywhere on Earth outside Torbay... |
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JCM
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Joined: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 275
Location: Christchurch since last century
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Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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I believe it would be to NZ's economic benefit to allow retired people to settle here, provided they would be financially self-supporting and carry appropriate insurance.
A migration category specifically for retired people (which I'm sure is what Lin was referring to in her original question) would not impinge on SMC - their objectives would be completely different. |
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justin.g.s
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Joined: 10 Mar 2004
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Location: norwalk,ca
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Retired wealty people would be a great asset to N.Z My wifes parents would love to come, but would never qualify having never owned a buisness and not having 7 Million bucks.
But with the money they do they would be pumping it in to the local economy, far from a drain on the local government.
It is what we call the trickle down effect. God if you removed the retired million aires from Californias economy it would be devistating.
Just because the retire does not mean that they stop going out to eat 3 times a week, see movies, shop for clothes, furniture, microwaves ect...
They have an enormous impact on local economies. It is not like they turn 60 roll into a corner, crap their pants and drool on themselves.
My wifes folk either golf, bowl, or go hiking on a daily basis, except for hiking none of that is free, and guess what the govenment is making money on them
Not the other way around. Hell my grandparents are in their 80's and they still go on cruises once a year. And I am sure that my family is not the exception |
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Grey
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Joined: 05 Jan 2004
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 6:40 am Post subject: |
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It may well be possible for them to get in but will depend on any other family in the UK..such as yourself. There is no age limit to the Family Category, so they might qualify under 'Sibling'. The brother in NZ needs to have PR for at least 3yrs, and for your parent (whichever one it is) to have no remaining immediate relatives in the UK, siblings, children etc. Are you also going to NZ?
He/she would also need a job offer, can be for any work as long as full time so perhaps the brother could sort something out?
So it's not totally out of the question yet..
"edit"
I've just noticed that it doesn't matter if your parents have children still here ...so you don't have to leave afterall! When I said 'immediate relatives' that should only be parents/siblings.. I'm guessing your grandparents are gone now (?) so it would only be brothers/sisters still in the UK that would affect it.
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Raeven
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Joined: 01 Mar 2004
Posts: 156
Location: Central Coast of California
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 6:52 am Post subject: Yes, but... |
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This may have changed since last I checked a couple of weeks ago, but my understanding is that NZIS has ratcheted the Family Category down to zero for this year and possibly next year, as well. The reason they give is because of people like me, entering NZ as the partner of an ex-pat NZ citizen who is now returning to his homeland. Apparently, we partner types are coming in such droves that there are no longer slots to accommodate the Family Category.
Sorry to burst any bubbles, and I agree with JCM and justin -- retired folks who are self-supporting and can make meaningful contributions to the NZ economy would be a benefit. I guess there is enough capital flowing into the NZ economy through other means at the moment that they really don't care. |
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Bill B
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Joined: 24 Mar 2004
Posts: 64
Location: Essex, UK (pining for North Island)
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 7:08 am Post subject: Re: Yes, but... |
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| Raeven wrote: | | ..... I guess there is enough capital flowing into the NZ economy through other means at the moment that they really don't care. |
Hi Raeven,
I guess the surpluss "capital flowing into the NZ economy" is through the millions of dollars they have purloined from prospective migrants, and will continue to take, from people who think they may have a chance of succeeding with an EOI of just a hundred points (the minimum required). Why do they not come clean at the start instead of putting the current points total way down the list?
It probably doesn't catch that many people out now, but it was somewhat underhand don't you think?
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Raeven
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Location: Central Coast of California
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 7:36 am Post subject: |
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Hi, Bill,
I totally agree with you! I watch how hard others on this terrific message board struggle to get in, and I feel guilty at how easy it will be for me. But I know we are coming for the right reasons, and I will do my utmost to not be a bad taste in the melting pot! If it were up to me, I'd open the gates and let every person who ever posted here in.. they all have great things to contribute.
It does even out a bit.. my parents won't be able to live in NZ, either. |
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Grey
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Joined: 05 Jan 2004
Posts: 74
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 8:42 am Post subject: Re: Yes, but... |
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| Raeven wrote: | This may have changed since last I checked a couple of weeks ago, but my understanding is that NZIS has ratcheted the Family Category down to zero for this year and possibly next year, as well. The reason they give is because of people like me, entering NZ as the partner of an ex-pat NZ citizen who is now returning to his homeland. Apparently, we partner types are coming in such droves that there are no longer slots to accommodate the Family Category.
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That referred to the 'Family Quota'...which is a seperate category for those who don't meet the requirements of the other family policies. It works like a lottery system, last year they had 250 places, this year none....but there's no change to the other categories, if you qualify you're in. |
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Raeven
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Location: Central Coast of California
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Oh, cool!!!
I was hoping I was wrong somehow.. I get so twisted up with all the NZIS 'but-for's' and 'whereas's'... apologies for all the confusion.
Thanks, Grey, for the sound correction.
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cliff
I'll Hang Around A Little
Joined: 17 Nov 2003
Posts: 14
Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 9:01 am Post subject: Re: Yes, but... |
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| Raeven wrote: | This may have changed since last I checked a couple of weeks ago, but my understanding is that NZIS has ratcheted the Family Category down to zero for this year and possibly next year, as well. The reason they give is because of people like me, entering NZ as the partner of an ex-pat NZ citizen who is now returning to his homeland. Apparently, we partner types are coming in such droves that there are no longer slots to accommodate the Family Category.
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Raeven,
It is not the Family Category that has been halted, but the Family Quota Category. There is a slight but subtle difference between the two.
The Family Category, (i.e. the partner of a NZer, such as yourself), is still open, whereas the Family Quota Category, (i.e. a member of the family of a NZer, e.g. father, mother, brother, sister, etc), is what has been frozen for this year and possibly next year as well.
I realise that this doesn't help the folks here trying to obtain immigration for their parents, but I just wanted to make the distinction clear.
Good luck. |
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Bill B
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Joined: 24 Mar 2004
Posts: 64
Location: Essex, UK (pining for North Island)
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 9:22 am Post subject: |
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The Family Category, (i.e. the partner of a NZer, such as yourself), is still open, whereas the Family Quota Category, (i.e. a member of the family of a NZer, e.g. father, mother, brother, sister, etc), ............
Good luck.[/quote]
Hi Cliff,
Although you are correct with regards to the partner of a NZ'er, the NZIS website also adds the following for that particular category.....
See www.immigration.govt.nz/migrate/#Family+Category
Quote "Or have immediate family members who are NZ citizens or residents and who live permanently in NZ".
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justin.g.s
I Like It Here
Joined: 10 Mar 2004
Posts: 76
Location: norwalk,ca
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 9:52 am Post subject: |
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I agree that they should be less strict regarding who gets in.
Its a shame that they view immigrants as a potential strain on the government as opposed to a beneficial contribitor to the work force and the local economy.
It is a timid mind set, a sort of cultural hang-over from the former socialist days of people on the dole from 20 years past.
My guess is that they will get over, just give them another 20 years  |
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