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Grey
I Like It Here
Joined: 05 Jan 2004
Posts: 74
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 10:36 am Post subject: Re: Yes, but... |
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| cliff wrote: |
...but I just wanted to make the distinction clear.
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..well you didn't! 
I explained briefly above how the 'family quota' works, it has nothing to do with the rest of the family category, which includes parents, siblings, children & partners and none of these have been frozen...so it is a possibility for the original poster.. |
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cliff
I'll Hang Around A Little
Joined: 17 Nov 2003
Posts: 14
Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Grey & Bill B,
I stand corrected!  |
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Bill B
I Like It Here
Joined: 24 Mar 2004
Posts: 64
Location: Essex, UK (pining for North Island)
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| cliff wrote: | Grey & Bill B,
I stand corrected! |
Hey, no prob Cliff. It's too easy to get a bit bamboozled at times looking through the NZIS website  Don't know if it's intentional on their part. It just seems that you start to get a feel for it if you find answers to your question/s, then, go a few pages deeper & it then seems to contradict itself.  That's how I see it anyway.
Are you still hoping to go out to NZ in July? If so, where are you heading to?
Bill B |
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lin thorpe
Testing The Water
Joined: 06 May 2004
Posts: 8
Location: gloucester
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you to everyone for this discussion. My Dad's brother has been in NZ since 1973 - and we (my husband and three kids) are in the process of applying ourselves.  You've given my parents loads to think about and it seems the door isn't completely closed yet!
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cliff
I'll Hang Around A Little
Joined: 17 Nov 2003
Posts: 14
Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 2:45 am Post subject: |
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Hello Bill B,
Yes, I am hoping to get to the North Island, the sooner the better.
I will be aiming either for Whangarei or the Bay of Islands area. I stayed in Paihia for a few days when I was there on holiday last year, and had a great time. I thought that the BOI was really lovely, and just like everywhere else I went, the locals were very friendly. |
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Grey
I Like It Here
Joined: 05 Jan 2004
Posts: 74
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| cliff wrote: | Grey & Bill B,
I stand corrected! |
No worries, I only know about it as we were in the family quota draw last year.. something like 10000 applicants for 250 places.. needless to say we weren't drawn! |
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Bill B
I Like It Here
Joined: 24 Mar 2004
Posts: 64
Location: Essex, UK (pining for North Island)
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| cliff wrote: | Hello Bill B,
.................... I stayed in Paihia for a few days when I was there on holiday last year, and had a great time. I thought that the BOI was really lovely, and just like everywhere else I went, the locals were very friendly. |
Hi Cliff, little coincidence here.....
Pam & I went to visit my sister in Auckland last year (Jan 30 to Feb 21).
For the first week, we stayed at Paihia in BOI. We also loved this area. Whilst there, we went to Cape Reinga and Ninety Mile Beach, Kauri Forest & Kerikeri. Went to Waitangi, (but went on the 7th Feb, didn't want to chance getting caught up in the demo on the 6th!!) and saw what must be the biggest whaka ever built.
We also had a couple of days at Roturua, bit pungent at times, but the Pohutu was firing on all cylinders, some sight, and Whakarewarewa (just outside the entrance to the thermal springs) was really good, even got selected as the leading representative to accept the Maori challenge/greeting......very intimidating!
Paradise Valley wildlife park is also a great place to visit, not far from there.
The Tamaki Living Village was a bit of a let-down, but we had a great meal from the hangi, followed by a traditional Haka.
On our way up to BOI, we stopped off at a farm in Mangawhai. It's owned by friends of my sister and they have kindly offered her a place there when she retires! She often goes there to recharge the batteries and just let the world flow by, it is so peaceful and serene. The hospitality was superb, they really are wonderful people, even by Kiwi standards. Let me know when you're heading that way, I'm sure they'll be more than happy to accommodate you for a night on the way up to Paihia, with a great dinner and breakfast thrown in too!
My sister kindly (?) let me do all the driving whilst we were there, and I must say, what a pleasure it was. Drivers, road workers, pedestrians one and all, they all seemed to have time to acknowledge you and were friendly to a fault, somewhat different to driving along Queen Street in downtown Auck.
Sorry, in ramble mode. Can carry on by PM if you like.
Bill B. |
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aurora
I Like It Here
Joined: 20 Nov 2003
Posts: 52
Location: Christchurch, NZ (formerly Adelaide, AUS)
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| JCM wrote: | | I believe it would be to NZ's economic benefit to allow retired people to settle here, provided they would be financially self-supporting and carry appropriate insurance. |
Sorry to be contrarian, but if the NZ government lets all the willing retired people to settle here (from UK, US, etc), the economic benefit would go up - but the quality of life would go down the toilet. Do we really want to turn NZ into another Great Britain with 60+ million people? It's like killing the Golden Goose to reap a few eggs.
Sorry in advance if I upset anyone with this comment - it's just my humble opinion. Civilised debate and alternate views are welcome. |
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Macs Gold
I'll Hang Around A Little
Joined: 13 Jul 2004
Posts: 30
Location: Under the Southern Cross
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| justin.g.s wrote: | I agree that they should be less strict regarding who gets in.
Its a shame that they view immigrants as a potential strain on the government as opposed to a beneficial contribitor to the work force and the local economy.
It is a timid mind set, a sort of cultural hang-over from the former socialist days of people on the dole from 20 years past.
My guess is that they will get over, just give them another 20 years |
But immigrants ARE both a potential drain on the government, as well as a potential contributor.
There is nothing wrong with the Govt trying to reduce the downsides and increase the potential upsides, with more selective immigration policies, is there?
When it comes down to it, if you can get yourself a pretty relevant job offer and have good English speaking skills, then you can pretty much get in.
And unfortunately, allowing people to retire to NZ is not a good way of increasing the population (fundamentally NZs immigration policy is about economic growth). Even if they can fend for themselves financially (and many from say the south of England would find this easy), they would still be taking up housing, health and other potentially scarce resources.
The exeption to all this is the humanitarian view that families should be allowed to unite. There are allowances in the family category (and refugee categories for that matter) for those whose balance of family now live in NZ.
Its still early days in the new regime of course, but my view is that the NZ policy is far from timid. In some ways it is a bit of a gamble, with the potential for immigrants to be frightened off by the process, and not applying. But as it seems to be turning out, those who are prepared to travel to NZ to get work are being overwhelmingly successful. |
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rodders
Valued Member
Joined: 25 Nov 2003
Posts: 134
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:44 am Post subject: |
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| Macs Gold wrote: |
And unfortunately, allowing people to retire to NZ is not a good way of increasing the population (fundamentally NZs immigration policy is about economic growth). Even if they can fend for themselves financially (and many from say the south of England would find this easy), they would still be taking up housing, health and other potentially scarce resources.
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not sure i want to see the popn go up much (after i've got in of course ). wouldn't be the same place if there were millions more people. so letting the old codgers in is good so long as they don't need nz taxpayers money. the money the oldies bring in pays for their healthcare plus they pay taxes in nz. in return they get a nice place to retire. win-win. |
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