Work Visa or PR

Arlevien · I Like It Here Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 56

HI Folks,

I am getting some promising responces from NZ employers. However, most of them are having urgent requirements, meaning they might not be able to wait for 6 months ( for a PR application ).

I guess this might call for a work visa application instead of working out a PR if I do get a job offer and apply for a PR once we are there. What do you think?

Has anyone know how long is it to secure a work visa? and what are the hard to get requirements if I want to have my wife with me?

We are having high hopes that at least one will turn out a successfull job offer. We are all praying for it Rolling Eyes

amd wish us luck fingers crossed

regards to all!

karltsmith · Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 8:57 pm Post subject:

Hi Arlevien,

We are in the same situation and are procedeing with a parallel application for a lonfg term work visa and an EOI. My advice is based on the fact that I don't know your line of work or where you are headed. I think it would be quicker for you to get a work visa provided you are on the POL or OSL, or if your employer is registered with NZIS as an approved employer in which case a work to residence route might be open to you. Finally they can secure an 'Approval in Principal' to get you a LTWV. To do the latter will take longer as they must go through a 60 day consultation period to ensure no other Kiwi is suitable or could be found to do the job you have been offered, a job market survey in effect. If any of the above prove sucessfull you can proceed with an application for a WV or LTWV. Once in NZ you can apply locally at any time for PR via an EOI and whats more if lodged in NZ its cheaper and after one year in NZ mployment you will get a further 10 points to add to your total.

Arlevien · I Like It Here Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 56

HI Karl,

My line of work is falls under one in the OSL ( IT to be exact ) and given this, and after a thorough look into the NZIS info's, it will be more faster to get a work visa application. In this case also my employer would be will not require an approval in principle. I am also hoping that my potential employer is experienced or knows to get people out of NZ.

Now that you have mention it.. having a parrallel application ( EOI and WV ).. 1 question poped to me whether having two pending applications affect either one or the other Confused

? Any opinions?

As I have mentioned, nothings final yet, but I am pretty excited on how things are going. Razz

regards
-Arlevien

karltsmith · Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 4:34 am Post subject:

There is nothing in the rules to prevent a parallel application. The only thing you have to be aware of is that you might get stung for two sets of medicals and police reports unless you can use one set for both applications. We are trying to coincide and invitaion to apply with and application for a work visa in a couple of weeks hopefully.

To my knowledge this is as yet untried so I don't know if NZIS are set up for this mentally!!!! Time will tell eh! We are going to try to get the EOI people to talk to the work visa people and hopefully find some common ground....it's not exactly rocket science is it!!!!!!!!! Which means of course for some bureaucratic reason it will be impossible...but hey we can try cant we!

ranton

In our particular situation we have had medicals done twice now and missed the deadlines for the GSC and IGSC changes by a matter of days..result....£640.00 out of pocket and not a single application made so I'm a bit P****d at NZIS for this! More so because of not giving any warning or date to work to.

This moan deserves a thread all it's own and I'm sure we are not the only ones who have had to suffer this!

rantoff

Grey · I Like It Here Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 74

There's definitely no problem lodging both applications at the same time, know many who've gone this way before. When applying for the work visa just put a leaving date of under 2yrs, that way you won't need medicals etc (even though it says 'if you intend on staying less than 2yrs'). I know of someone who recently applied in person at NZ Hse for PR, it was suggested to complete a work visa application at the same time to get out there quicker...was given the work visa on the day (think valid for 18mths or so).....waffling now but it seems to work..

Karl, not sure if this applies to you (about your rant!) but you should be Ok with your last set of medicals, don't know if you've seen this question on the NZIS site?
I was ready to appy and I have got my medical and x-ray certificate form completed. If I am successful in receiving an invitation to apply for residence will I need to get a new medical and x-ray certificate form?

If you are successful in receiving an invitation to apply in the early months of the Skilled Migrant Category, NZIS will take into account dates of medical and x-ray certificates for those who may be affected by this closure.

JCM · Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 11:17 am Post subject:

Arlevien · I Like It Here Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 56

THis is a stunning revalation for me.. I will try to lodge both.

Another question is if I do get a WV, how can I have my wife to go with me to NZ? I have not found anything on the nZIS stipulating proceedures for dependents of WV holders? Does this mean that lodging an EOI is the only way to get my wife to go with me?

thanks all

Grey · I Like It Here Joined: 05 Jan 2004 Posts: 74

If applying for a work visa/permit your partner can make a seperate application for one.. They don't need a job offer and will be given an open permit allowing any work for anyone! Sorted!

On her application she has to tick the 'family' box, (partner of work visa/permit holder). It doesn't matter if you don't have yours yet, so you can apply for both at the same time.

Arlevien · I Like It Here Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 56

Grey, I Appreciate your advice indeed. thanks.

Has anyone tried the online EOI yet?

Arlevien · I Like It Here Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 56

I run thru the WV application form. It stipulates there that only partners of WV holders of not less than six months are elligible. It seems that I do get the WV my wife will be left to wait for 6 months before she can apply and come over. Confused

karltsmith · Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:35 pm Post subject:

I think you may have misinterpreted the rules! If YOU apply for a work visa of less than 6 months this is the case. However if YOU get a 2 year work visa approved your wife will get one by default because YOU as the principal applicant have one!!! She does not have to wait at all you will get them at the same time!!!!

jbiggley · Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:50 pm Post subject:

Does this apply to children as well? I would hope that they are work visa exempt? If on a WV, do I have to pay tuition in the public schools? That could get might expensive with 4 kids!

So many questions and so few answers! Nutcase

Josh

Arlevien · I Like It Here Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 56

karltsmith · Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:38 am Post subject:

Hi JBiggley,

[quote]Working Visas
The normal Work Visa policy is for workers who have been offered a job in New Zealand because the New Zealand employer cannot find anyone with the skills, qualifications and experience to do the job offered. These Work Visas are normally issued for a maximum period of 3 years. The spouse and dependent children of Work Visa holders are given Visitor or Student Visas for the same period as the Work Visa holder. Dependent children of Work Visa holders do not pay international student tuition fees until they complete secondary school. [/quote]

I hope this answers your question!!!!

Follow this link for more info on the education system

http://www.study-nz.com/visas_working.asp

Good Luck

Karl

jbiggley · Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:54 am Post subject:

Karl:

Thanks for the link! Probably one of the few pages on immigration that I haven't visited! Wink

I'll have to read that one -- it looks like there is tonnes of good information there